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I just heard on the news that today, about an hour ago it was a shoot out inside a local mall. Apparently, some thug approached a mans fiance and was very rude. The man asked him to leave but instead this idiot starts shooting. Man, I tell you this world is going to hell in a hand basket. It kinda makes you just want to stay home you know, because if its a justified shoot by a CCW carrier you still are going to have problems. Any thoughts. I can't believe it and this mall is decent. :frown:
 

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Charlotte, NC at the Eastland Mall. I often had mom drop me off here in the 80's and frequented it in the early 90's being I was still in Highschool. It is really sad to see stuff like this happend.
 

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I tell you this world is going to hell in a hand basket.
That Blue is sadly even an understatement.

Bottom line seems - you do not know what you are going to meet - anywhere - however much an ''anywhere'' seems like a nice place!!

As I try and follow - ''expect the unexpected''.
 

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Do what I do... order most of your presents on line.

It saves time, money spent on gas, not to mention your sanity.

People just lose their minds around Christmas.
 

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I order quite a few presents on line too but you can't hide in your house all your life. The BG's will just break down the door and come after you there. Be vigilant about what is going on around you. Know that a minor confrontation could turn ugly so try to avoid them if possible. Carry 24/7. Other than that, get on with your life.
 

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Yeah, I'll bet that at least 70% of all my annaual gift purchases are done online. But Sometimes, especially around Christmas I really LIKE some of the malls. Atmosphere is nice. Neato decorations, music...etc helps put you in the Christmas mood, so to speak. But these times, I can concentrate on the area all around me. So I'm not shopping. The wife might be, but I'm covering the both of us! I simply guide her by the elbow when it gets really crowded. She's looking in store front displays anyway, so it let's me look for valid areas of "cover" constantly. She's really good about letting me handle security and never questions my feelings or decisions.
 

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One would hope there is "something more to the story" that just didn't make it out to public consumtion but maybe not. the guy coulda just been a "loose cannon"...maybe unstable to begin with.
Was the guy and his fiance injured?..armed?

what a mess!
 

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Just found the story at www.wcnc.com:

Shots fired inside Eastland Mall

Officers said a punch was thrown and then the shooter fired twice.

Police said the shooter hit his victim two times, but the wounded man walked away without life threatening injuries.

6NEWS

6NEWS' cameras caught police capturing a man after a foot chase. Officers said that man was arrested for resisting arrest and trespassing.

Police said the shooting isn't gang related. They still aren’t sure who actually pulled the trigger. 6NEWS' cameras caught police capturing a man after a foot chase. Officers said that man was arrested, at least for resisting arrest and trespassing as he was already banned from Eastland Mall.

Witnesses we spoke to said the mall needs to have more security than it currently has, but police counter that violence like this cannot be anticipated.

The big problem now according to police, is that the victim is not being cooperative. As for the security situation, police said they were actually very happy with the security provided by the on duty guards and the off-duty officers the mall had employed.
 

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It will be interesting once the accused's background information comes out - I'll bet you'll see some evidence of prior violent-criminal history, and I'll be EXTREMELY surprised if this guy went as licensed to carry in North Carolina. Bottom line I'm bettin' is that this will be another situation that supports the need of each person to provide for his own defense in a responsible and legal manner.

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Yesterday at a nearby Wally World there were two obviously drunk males giving the clerk at the McDonalds a rough time and using language that was hardly appropriate for a family atmopshere. An elderly man asked them to quiet down and one of them pushed past past him and toppled him to the floor. A bystander grapped the drunk and KO'd him on the spot. A two hit fight the guy hitting the drunk and the drunk hitting the floor. All witnesses were on the side of the good guy so the BG got a shiner and gets to explain his actions to the judge for public intoxication.

Need more citizens who are not afraid to get involved.
 

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Ditto:

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"Man, I tell you this world is going to hell in a hand basket."

Sure Is BlueLion...going to Hell in a hurry.

Malls have so many people all in one place. A few are bound to be bonkers in any large mall at any given time.
Who knows WHAT will "set them off"

And doggone....I really love the X~mas Spirit when some lady "Whoops!" drops her baby on the floor & a whole crowd of people are willing to tromp on a little babys head in order to dive for boxed discounted laptop computers that are being tossed into the crowd. Some people are such total idiots.
 

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Gosh, I remember a thread earlier where we joked about having to go shopping last weekend. We all joked about major firepower. such as: SAWs and Tanks. Boy we weren't far off.
I got most of my presents online too, but my GF loves to shop at malls and stores. When I go with her I'm like a cat on a hot tin roof. Scaning, watching. I'm begining to consider changing out my G26 for my M9, at least during this crazy season.
 

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Update people, come to find out that it was over a woman and the guy was later set up after the shoot out at the mall. The shoot out spread to a local highway and went car to car with one driver being shot several times and dying in ditch and a good guy was rushed to the hospital because one of the two cars that were at each other collided head on into him. The good guy is in critical condition. Now, if any of you know about how Charlotte is set up shoot out went from East Charlotte to North Charlotte. Just updating everyone. :cool:
 

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Shucks - now that got complicated, and messy.

Anyone with a full press write-up source later, do post it.
 

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Mall shootings, talk about a scary situation. A lot of bystanders in a panic.

I hate picking up cash from large stores for that reason.
 
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