Just some thoughts. 1)Use more than one combative strike, follow up on the kick with an additional strike or two before attempting to "put him on the ground;" 2) beware of the OC/CS you just soaked him with as you attempt to put him on the ground--it might get back on you.
What I think you are saying is stun,disorient, disable, , and git-outta-there. For a young athletic and trained fellow as yourself that sounds like a plan.
Agreed on all points Hopyard.
I'd use as many strikes as is necessary, to allow me ability to get out of there.
I did not expand on that though in my post simply for reason of speaking to the generalized public who are not generally experienced at all in hand to hand combat muchless have ever thrown a punch in anger.
But everyone has kicked a ball at one time in their life and by that they can directly attach mentally to my analogy as related to a soccer style kick or using ones heel to the inner thigh. Any person regardless of age or gender who is physically able to move their leg as from a _seated_ position (the actor is seated) can pull this off to a high degree of success.
Agreed as well in regard to OC/CS use and that is an item that anyone should consider and IMHO plan on occurring if they choose such a weapon to carry.
Same as if one chooses to carry a firearm they should plan on a miss (thus why it is critical to take note of background before firing!) and also know how to handle and clear a weapon malfunction. Items that commonly come with the territory and to not know this is a failure on the part of the handler/operator.
I am most definitely stating; Stun/Disorient, Disable/Stop (If even momentarily rather than long term or permanently) and EVACUATE!
Evacuate means to put distance and/or solid object cover if not concealment as between you and the attacker(s).
Distance and cover are our very best friends....As they are first cousins to life and security.
Once more my post response was generic as to the majority of persons walking our streets; Child to Elder.
These are real world effective actions and thoughts that most anyone could use as to the majority, to survive such an encounter.
As to myself though speaking in specific, frankly that guy would not have caught me seated in the chair like that looking frozen to start.
Because I personally quite simply would not have set myself up for being prey as these people depicted did. I grew up as a kid using laundromats and one thing I learned very quickly is that laundromats are a pen for predators. They know you have money because you walk in there with a pocket full of quarters at a dollar or more per load, wash and dry (!). As well they typically have just one entrance and exit so by that once inside you are cornered with means of escape. Just like a pen.
I would be doing my laundry by day not at night as in this case and I would leave my laundry inside the laundromat and place myself _outside_ of the laundromat to wait on cycles to complete, and observe as from distance. I learned this lesson on my own by observation as by age 9 or 10, as a shorty watching other suckas adult and children too get got _exactly_ like this scenario.
You only have to see or fall victim to such an item once to learn. Kind of like playing with matches and getting burned.
Also soon as he'd entered the laundromat it's very likely I would have, assuming I were for some odd reason caught inside seated like that, noted his entry. I again by my own life experience and lessons learned first person as well as third person observed learning by proxy have a habit to watch every person who enters _and_ exits within my view. I do this everywhere and now it's to a point I don't even think about it actively anymore. It's sub-conscious for me.
I'd have noted his 1) fast entry and 2) hooded head as 3) at night. Individually those are yellow flag items. As combined into one they are red flag items.
At that point I would not wait to see what is going to happen or if he would make it over to me.
I'd be acting at this point, rather than reacting.
I would likely duck and scoot down for concealment behind the row of units to the guys hard left and attempt to take a flank against where the first guy entered.
I say first because I have also learned the hard way that these people almost never travel and act alone. When you see one assume two. If you see two assume four. That rule of my own observation has saved me skin a number of times to date.
From there whether I choose to stay concealed, escape/evac, or even go on the defensive and attack (!) as from surprise would depend on a multiple of additional and untold factors not featured in this clip.
But one thing I am sure about as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, I very likely would either not be there to start to set myself up for failure OR I would not be caught flat footed and flat bottom frozen in a chair like that. Odds as based on my own past experiences do not support it, for me.
But that's me, myself and I.
As to my age and conditioning that leads to another item that I touched on my posting.
Conditioning.
Acquiring and maintaining a minimum degree of physical conditioning is a very real means of active self defense and personal security enabling.
My next birthday this coming summer will be my fortieth (40th). I was born in 1970.
I am one of a very few males of my age group and contemporaries as well as 'dads' that I know who is by any manner of assessment is in "shape" physically, and internally.
I can pick myself up. I can lift at least one leg and kick. I can move my bulk and _run_ to save my own life be it to flee a felony in progress or a fire at my back.
This is by no accident nor due to genetics. Inversely my own peers are largely not in same or similar condition as due to happenstance accident or genetics, even as they might try to explain away their belly and back fat as just that.
Fact is I choose to keep myself functional as in a physical and internal condition manner. I long ago made that choice seeing it to be a survival necessity as a kid. The kid who could run didn't have to work about danger from neighborhood bullys, cops (!) and others who had less than friendly intent toward you. You only had to NOT be the slowest or second slowest of the pack you happen to be caught on the run with.
Same applys to fighting it out. You didn't have to be the best fighter. Just not the weakest/slowest and most definitely you cannot be a 'punk'. And I'm not referring to a music style either.
I'm a grown man now and I also by personal choice removed myself from such areas and now live, at multiple personal costs, in a less interesting area. Crime though occurs here as well...and we have laundromats too, where people do on occasion get got.
So to those who might think my post was applicable in the narrows to a healthy physically fit and youthful male...they would be incorrect.
Further for those who might excuse away my proposed actions to instead default straight to a drawn gun and/or taking shots I would encourage them to take an honest assessment of their own self and ask a simple singular question of; 'Why?'.
Personally as speaking for and toward myself, the absolute last thing in life and living that I want to do is to draw my firearm.
Because if my brain does the math and comes to a sum answer that involves drawing of my lethal force tool...Well then no matter what happens next nobody is going to win.
I'm not a draw and brandish type of mindset person. I am quiet and calculating. I don't bark and do the chest puffery thing. Never have not even as a kid. I'll even try to walk it off and take verbal barbs, to a degree. But beyond that, I go straight to bite. No bared teeth. No growling and hackles raising. I do the math in my head and then bite.
Biggest problem for me to that end is under training scenarios to force myself to speak and yell out a warning of 'Halt' or 'I don't want to hurt you!'. Even during IDPA events this happens where I just go super focused in my brain and I don't hear other people speaking to me or I for a moment find it difficult to come out of attack/defensive attack thought process.
So again unlike others I personally see the firearm as a literal option of very last resort. If I play that card I'll very likely use it rather than simply display it. From there though things very much tend to go downhill. And I will be in the moment extremely focused on doing the absolute maximum amount of bodily harm to my attacker(s) as efficiently as is possible while also actively minimizing my own exposure probability to injury. This is why I will not go toe to toe slug fest style with some fool(s) nor think to stand my ground and fight it out because I might be physically larger in stature or weight than the other guy(s). People get owned with that thought left and right on the streets, in real life. David vs. Goliath style.
A bit of a long reply but I wanted this time around to be complete s toward my view and reasoning for my first post.
This video and thread scenario IMHO is good as it reflects a real world very mush plausible happening for any place be it city, suburban or rural.
It's far better to think on these things now from ones chair now as they can than to be caught in the video victims chairs as into the who knows when future.
Real world apartment and public laundromats as I recall them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMPJ0J4HXLc <Warning: The audio track is very much NWS. Hit mute before playing!>
http://www.weathernet5.com/news/15030529/detail.html
BTW not just males run up on folks in laundromats and laundry rooms (apartment/condo) but females do the exact same things preying on other females and even running with males as armed to 'get that money' and lighten folks pockets.
Seriously. Real world.
- Janq
