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Yep, you're bored alright!XD9 said:
To answer your question, no. You can't. Tigers are endangered species and you'd be in big trouble with PETA.
:biggrin: Seriously, I don't think you can carry in most casinos, so that eliminates the opportunity. Even if armed, I don't think it would be a good idea. Who knows how many stage hands would be in the line of fire behind the scenes.
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Nope, not me. Since it was in a casino theater, I would not have been carrying. Getting attacked by a tiger (when you are in his line of business) is an occupational hazard. I will assume he would have made arrangements to have someone to turn to in case something happened. If he didn't plan for it, he should have. If someone would have stood up and shot the tiger, they would be in court the rest of your life and Roy Horne would have been at the head of the line to sue you....
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OK Now This IS Pretty Far Fetched For A Tac Situation
Your chances are much better being struck by lightning twice than ever having to "WASTE" a tiger with your carry firearm.
QUESTION:
What would you do in this HOSTAGE SITUATION?
Shoot or No Shoot?
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I think next time Humor & Off Topic would be a better place for a thread like this...maybe.
Your chances are much better being struck by lightning twice than ever having to "WASTE" a tiger with your carry firearm.
QUESTION:
What would you do in this HOSTAGE SITUATION?
Shoot or No Shoot?
:rofl:
I think next time Humor & Off Topic would be a better place for a thread like this...maybe.
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Having run a tiger-mauling, from a private game reserve: what the guys partner found to work was a .44 mag, point blank to the left ear.
I would say cats would be worse than a bear; a .50AE Desert Eagle, with an extended mag might give me some level of comfort, but I still wouldn't feel confident that I could be fast enough to hit it, starting from a "ready" position.
Kinda cool, all the flesh was gone from the side of the guy's neck; we could actually see his carotid and jugular vessels, throbbing. Lucky SOB- NOTHING was cut/torn.
I would say cats would be worse than a bear; a .50AE Desert Eagle, with an extended mag might give me some level of comfort, but I still wouldn't feel confident that I could be fast enough to hit it, starting from a "ready" position.
Kinda cool, all the flesh was gone from the side of the guy's neck; we could actually see his carotid and jugular vessels, throbbing. Lucky SOB- NOTHING was cut/torn.
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Serious Answer
The large cats are so fast that before you could react Roy Horne would have his skull crushed & his face would be very torn off.
If you were off to one side and had a chest/heart shot at the tiger & had a handgun in the .44 mag caliber range then (thin skinned) predatory cats die easily when hit in the pumper...but, usually never instantly.
Roy Horne would still be very dead. :dead:
In short I would say that there would be not much that you could do with a typical defensive carry handgun to prevent a full grown tiger from halting its impending intended attack on a human that is that close. Just my opinion.
The large cats are so fast that before you could react Roy Horne would have his skull crushed & his face would be very torn off.
If you were off to one side and had a chest/heart shot at the tiger & had a handgun in the .44 mag caliber range then (thin skinned) predatory cats die easily when hit in the pumper...but, usually never instantly.
Roy Horne would still be very dead. :dead:
In short I would say that there would be not much that you could do with a typical defensive carry handgun to prevent a full grown tiger from halting its impending intended attack on a human that is that close. Just my opinion.
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A few years ago, one of the cheetahs escaped from the Nashville Zoo. Luckily, nobody was harmed and the cheetah was tranquilized. I enjoy the zoo and go once or twice a year. So while the casino show may never apply to me, the zoo scenario would. My handguns might not be much, but if I thought I could get a good, safe shot at the big cat, I would if that cat was attacking someone and no employees were around to tranquilize it. I also think that's easier said than done - a .45, .357 or .38 Spl. isn't the best equalizer against a very large, fast-moving predator with teeth and claws. :dead:
I did a Google search for "domesticated" big cat incidents, and ended up with a PETA (yeah, yeah, I know) PDF document with U.S. incidents from 1990 to 2005. There's quite a lot of them, most mainly being stupid humans sticking their hands in or near the cages. Others were of people attacked by their own pet big cats , park employees and circus trainers being bitten, kids and adults bitten and clawed during "photo ops" with the "tame" animals, and people attacked by escaped pets.
I did a Google search for "domesticated" big cat incidents, and ended up with a PETA (yeah, yeah, I know) PDF document with U.S. incidents from 1990 to 2005. There's quite a lot of them, most mainly being stupid humans sticking their hands in or near the cages.
Others were of people attacked by their own pet big cats , park employees and circus trainers being bitten, kids and adults bitten and clawed during "photo ops" with the "tame" animals, and people attacked by escaped pets.
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Not To Get Morbid Or Anything
But, the last domestic tiger attack that I remember reading about was a high school girl that loved tigers and wanted to have her graduation/yearbook photo taken with a live tiger.
The trainer was holding a leashed tiger that had been "on tour" before & never caused any sort of problems in the past.
The tiger moved - the girl panicked and squealed & without going into any detail.
She was killed.
A "tame" tiger on a leash is only ever on a leash because it is allowing the leash.
10 California Governors named Arnold could not hold a 900 lb. tiger on a leash that did not want to be on one.
Predatory cats are lightning fast and unpredictable.
But, the last domestic tiger attack that I remember reading about was a high school girl that loved tigers and wanted to have her graduation/yearbook photo taken with a live tiger.
The trainer was holding a leashed tiger that had been "on tour" before & never caused any sort of problems in the past.
The tiger moved - the girl panicked and squealed & without going into any detail.
She was killed.
A "tame" tiger on a leash is only ever on a leash because it is allowing the leash.
10 California Governors named Arnold could not hold a 900 lb. tiger on a leash that did not want to be on one.
Predatory cats are lightning fast and unpredictable.
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Unfortunately, predatory cats remain problematic, as their stealth and pounce leave little time to field any arm.
Jeff Cooper recalled an acquantaince who brought his .357 to africa on the assumption it could brain any threat. Now, some time after a lion charge, he still doesn't have full use of his left side.
One of my distributors forwarded a large video file showing a wounded lion galoping at the hunters, all the while taking hits from several 454's through the chest. Undeterred, the lion, in mid air, struck one of the hunters, knocking him to the ground. Then the lion landed, rolled, got to his feet, and ran off. In slo mo you could see the shots exiting the cat's boiler room with little or no immediate effect.
oops...this was supposed to be a tiger thread...sorry
We have mountain lions all over the MN woods now...what to do
Jeff Cooper recalled an acquantaince who brought his .357 to africa on the assumption it could brain any threat. Now, some time after a lion charge, he still doesn't have full use of his left side.
One of my distributors forwarded a large video file showing a wounded lion galoping at the hunters, all the while taking hits from several 454's through the chest. Undeterred, the lion, in mid air, struck one of the hunters, knocking him to the ground. Then the lion landed, rolled, got to his feet, and ran off. In slo mo you could see the shots exiting the cat's boiler room with little or no immediate effect.
oops...this was supposed to be a tiger thread...sorry
We have mountain lions all over the MN woods now...what to do
Sheep and sheepdogs....
Only if I was armed with a Ruger 454 Alaskan! Seriously as Tanksoldier said below (yes I used the edit feature), Sheepdogs protect the whole flock, not just their favorite sheep. Ya gotta work with whatever you got. Karamojo Bell, the famed "Great White Hunter" from the late 1800s to early 1900's used to take Elephant with a mere .243 by shooting them thru an eye. Shot placement is always critical and even more so here.XD9 said:
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