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It's time for me to secure my weapons. I have been using an old china cabinet with glass doors for my hand guns, and my long guns are just stacked on the floor against the wall. I am not looking for a single gun/rapid access vault. I need something that will hold 10-12 long guns and 10-12 handguns, with storage for ammo as a bonus feature. The wooden gun cabinets are worthless with the glass doors: great for display, but really just allow "one-stop-stealing" if anyone gets into the house!

I used to have a cheapie big box store "gun safe" that was made of metal so thin I think a screwdriver or can opener could have been used to get inside. I don't want to spend a fortune, and don't need a bank safe, but I do want something that will secure my weapons. I am also reluctant to trust anything with batteries and a keypad, and would prefer a key or combination lock. Again, rapid access is not needed: this is for secure storage. My handguns either are on my person or I want them to be locked up.

Any suggestions would be appreciated, along with best locations. I intended to bolt my cheapo safe to the wall studs to keep someone from just carrying it outside if nobody was home, and also thought of putting it in the garage, but temps in the summer exceed 100 degrees and I was worried about condensation/heat...also someone could break into the garage without coming in the house, and I'd be just as bad off! Where is the best place to secure the safe? And where is the best place to purchase a decent affordable safe?

Thanks for your suggestions!
 

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Got mine from Tractor Supply.
 

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Got mine from Tractor Supply.
I also bought mine from tractor suppy cannon brand they go onsale all the time and its has a plugminside the safe guaranteed for fire and flood
 

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Here's a vast storehouse of information: Gun Safe Buyers' Guide

I got a Superior Safe and am very pleased. gun safes, SUPERIOR SAFE COMPANY Home

Here are the SC Dealers for Superior:

PRICE’S FIREARMS
(864) 223-1218
2075 Calhoun Road
Greenwood, SC 29649

SHOOTER’S CHOICE
(803) 791-5498
944 Sunset Blvd.
West Columbia, SC 29169

Their "Sister" Company is Champion Safes: Gun Safes | Home Safes | Fireproof Safes - Champion Safe Co

Dixie Lock & Safe
1006 Owens Street
Aiken, SC 29803
Tel: (803) 648-8037
Fax: (803) 648-6428

Grady's Great Outdoors
3440 Clemson Blvd.
Anderson, SC 29621
Tel: (864) 226-5283
Fax: (864) 225-6471
Email: [email protected]
Web: Grady's Great Outdoors |

Nichols Store
1980 Mount Holly Road
Rock Hill, SC 29730
Tel: (803) 328-9792
Fax: (803) 328-1758
Email: [email protected]
Web: Nichols Store - Outdoor Paradise

Plaza Coins & Knives
119 Poinsett Highway
Greenville, SC 29609
Tel: (864) 235-8557
Fax: (864) 235-8559

Price's Firearms
2075 Calhoun Road
Greenwood, SC 29649
Tel: (864) 223-1218

Schofield Ace Hardware
155 South Cashua Drive
Florence, SC 29501
Tel: (843) 669-6393
Fax: (843) 664-1818
Web: Home

Shooters Choice
944 Sunset Blvd.
West Columbia, SC 29169
Tel: (803) 791-5498
Fax: (803) 791-1335

Simpson Plaza Hardware
40 West Wesmark Blvd.
Sumter, SC 29150
Tel: (803) 773-3397
Web: Welcome to Simpson Hardware

I have no connection with any of the companies, I just think they have a nice product and I like my local dealer.

The big plus for me was they delivered and installed it into my basement, rather than "end of driveway" delivery which is 100 yards away, all downhill. :lolp:

Here's the one I want: http://www.championsafe.com/products_yellow.html



The BIG Yellow Safe

› World's Largest Gun Safe
› Approximately 4000 lbs.
› 240 Cubic Feet
› 4-Way Active Door Bolts
› Up to 2 layers of fire insulation
› 24- 2½" Door Bolts
› 10 Gauge Door
› 10 Gauge Shell
› Forklift Cutouts at Base to allow for moving.
 

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Heritage, Fort Knox, or Superior. IMO, the three best safes on the market, Ft Knox being the best, but more than I could bite off. They have the most steel in them, compared to others on the market. I found Heritage to be the best value of the three, I bought the Legacy model, and I really like it.
 

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I got a big Liberty from a local vendor. Here are some of my thoughts...

Get it bigger than you need. You'll always be finding more stuff you think needs locking up.
Pay a professional mover to install it, Don't count on some friends and neighbors, a dolly, and beer.
Check with your tax preparer and write off the safe. Also see if you can get your insurance discounted.
Get the optional lighting package, or plan on wiring it yourself.
Keep it inside, not the garage. Consider that the place where you put it becomes hard cover. Bonus.
Get it bigger than you need.
 
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Super house has it right. Go bigger. If you take your time you may find a quality used one but that can sometimes cost as much with the required logistics to move it. Determine where it's gonna go, that'll fill in some blank spots on what you're getting.

There are actually a large number of old safes out there that were once in a grocery or insurance office. Mine is one of them. Its concrete lined, etc. I finally did the interior with panels stretched with car, headliner material. I knotched out 3/4" plywood for rifle rests, wired it, lights and Golden Rod, etc. I brushed and sprayed the exterior and polished the brass a bit. It's not the same quality as a Liberty but it ain't too shabby. It's a double door affair that's not going to moved in the middle of the night. I enjoyed the project. Ah yes, a beneficial draw back with mine; one of the steel wheels broke off somewhere down the line prior to it coming home with me. Moving it isn't a challenge like, say building a pyramid, but it takes some thought and hardware.

And it's full. Go bigger.
 

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You should check out the Winchester Ranger Deluxe and if you are a Costco Member you can get it delivered for only $1,599.

Furniture Shelf Safe Room Shelving

The Winchester name stands for a history of reliability and integrity. Each Winchester Safe is manufactured to enhance the reputation for quality and workmanship that customers expect. Winchester Safes are manufactured to exact tolerances and Underwriters Laboratories requirements and are monitored consistently in the production process for compliance. This is your assurance that your Winchester Safe is the "best safe in the industry."

Features:
Weight - 935 lbs
Exterior Dimensions - 72"(H) x 40"(W) x 30"(D)
Interior Dimensions - 69"(H) x 36"(W) x 18"(D)
Up to 51 Long Guns

Fire Protection:
1 hour/1400°F
Three layers of fireboard in the door
Two layers of fireboard in the body
Palusol® heat expandable door seal
External door hinge allows full firebaord protection and
180° door swing

Burglary Protection:
UL listed for burglary protection, RSC
U.L listed lock standard
12 Ga. steel body construction
Drill resistant hard plate 60-61Rc
Auxiliary relocker
4-way locking bolt system
1.25" solid steel locking bolts
18 locking bolts

Series Features:
Heavy-duty strap hinges
Door panel organizer
Winchester Ranger Deluxe 7240 Safe
 

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Check your local moving and storage companies to see if they have any used safes they're looking to get rid of. Safes are heavy and therefore expensive to move, and like pianos, get left behind to save money when households move. A friend got an enormous safe from a moving company for what amounted to pretty much the cost of delivery.
 

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Here's the one I want: Gun Safes | Home Safes | Fireproof Safes - Champion Big Yellow Safe

The BIG Yellow Safe

› World's Largest Gun Safe
› Approximately 4000 lbs.
› 240 Cubic Feet
› 4-Way Active Door Bolts
› Up to 2 layers of fire insulation
› 24- 2½" Door Bolts
› 10 Gauge Door
› 10 Gauge Shell
› Forklift Cutouts at Base to allow for moving.
Nice looking unit, there.


OP:

Occasionally, an older model Graffunder can be found on the used market ... though, not very often. For example, roughly similar to today's B6028, 60x29x28", 1500 lbs, 1/4" steel (3 ga) door and shell, 10 1" bolts. It ain't sexy, but it'll keep out most anyone but the serious safe burglars. This will easily hold what your looking for (12 long guns, 12 handguns), if you can find one.

Reputable safe vendor: Rogue Safe, in Medford OR. Not local to you, no, but they can arrange shipment of anything. They've also got a variety of pre-owned models in stock, generally.
 

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Thanks all for the suggestions:

I think I am leaning towards securing an existing room/closet in my garage, using a steel door and dead-bolts. Not a fire-rated, but much more affordable, and a TON more secured space!
 

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Are you concerned about burglary? fire? both? I can vouch for buying bigger than you think you'll need. I am partial to AmSec (American Security) safes. I also recommend S&G safe locks, I prefer dials, but digital keypads offer reasonable security.
 

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A few thoughts:

A safe is really easy to move by rolling it over multiple 1 inch PVC pipes.

I like taking all the shelving out, then building a box to sit on the bottom of the safe. Put bagged long guns on top of the box; use the box, with side door, to store bagged handguns and important papers, etc. The box is low so will have an advantage in a fire. The cases serve as a last ditch fire insulation and of course bump damage.

Don't store significant amounts of ammo in the safe. Believe me I know.
 

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I just recently bought a Liberty Fatboy. It supposedly has a 64 long gun capacity, but in reality it is unlikely you could put more than 35-40 scoped rifles/AR type rifles, in the safe. It has pistol pockets in the included door panel.

I bolted mine into the concrete foundation of my garage floor with four 3/8 inch diameter, 4 inch long concrete bolts.

I paid $2000 for mine, it included lights and an internal electrical system.

Because I live in a humid environment, I put a Peet dryer in a bottom corner to dry the air.

The safe is rated for 60 minutes, at 1200 degrees F.

Here are some pics of when it was first installed. I have since rearranged the interior for shelf space.







The new arrangement:


And just for kicks, here it is being unloaded... I used an engine hoist to pick up the 900lb safe off the trailer. Then I rolled it into place using 1 inch dowel rods. The whole job took an hour with a friend, but I definitely recommend professional movers. I happened to have the equipment and a little experience moving heavy things... I would never attempt to move something like this up stairs. That's why safe delivery is expensive... It's dangerous and takes special equipment.

 

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Here's a vast storehouse of information: Gun Safe Buyers' Guide
This is a great resource I've visited it many times. I wasn't aware of the additional info from Rock & Glock's post but it looks great too - I omitted though for brevity.

I just recently bought a Liberty Fatboy. It supposedly has a 64 long gun capacity, but in reality it is unlikely you could put more than 35-40 scoped rifles/AR type rifles, in the safe. It has pistol pockets in the included door panel.

I bolted mine into the concrete foundation of my garage floor with four 3/8 inch diameter, 4 inch long concrete bolts.

I paid $2000 for mine, it included lights and an internal electrical system.

Because I live in a humid environment, I put a Peet dryer in a bottom corner to dry the air.

The safe is rated for 60 minutes, at 1200 degrees F.
Congrats on the Liberty Fatboy! That looks nice. ;-)


OP, the only thing I would add is for you to maybe do a little inventory & determine the features that will be important to you. Some features come at a premium and might not justify the price difference - according to what you want. With the For Knox safes, for example, they have some models that are similar but you pay a significant premium for the flashier paint. If your safe is going to be out of the way tucked in the corner of a garage, it might not be worth paying extra for a flashier paint job that no one is ever going to see. If your safe, however, is going to be in your study and will be a central part of the decor then the less expensive safe with the matte finish wouldn't make sense either.

Best of hope and post pics when you get your safe!
 
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