[Phaedrus]

Man, I gotta stop buying reflexively when I see ammo and start using my brain!:danceban: I stopped by Wally World tonite to pick up a few things, and since I was already there I decided to check the ammo case. By dumb luck there were two boxes of 9mm Tul-Ammo in the case. My first impulse was to buy since they don't have 9mm ammo very often. But I'm not desperately short, and Tul is some very, very dirty steel cased junk that I prefer not to use. In "normal times" the $.50 per box savings over WWB isn't worth the hassle since it's filthy and non-reloadable. It's a sign of the times I guess that I decided 'what the heck' and bought it anyways!

I hate to run a lot of it since steel cases can be hard on extractors. But 100 rounds won't hurt anything. Better buy another bottle of Hoppe's #9, though! Gonna need it!:tongue:

 

[Eric357]

We ran a box of 50 Tulammo 9 through my wife's Beretta px4 and it seemed to do fine. A little dirty but have to clean after trip to range. I have heard that steel ammo is harder on extractor but not sure if I'm overly concerned with it unless that all we ran through it.

 

[Taurahe]

i would have bought it and I hdont have a 9mm. I have friends who can use it

 

[onacoma]

Just a note on Tul-ammo, we have had two Kaboom at local ranges in the past three month and it was with Tul-Ammo. So remember YMMV!

 

[sixgun]

At least you found some 9mm. Looks like things are looking up a bit.

 

[Scramble4a5]

Save it for your last two boxes when TSHTF. In that scenario a clean gun or worn out extractor wouldn't matter...:image035:

 

[miller_man]

Ahh, shot plenty of steel tulammo through a few of my guns. Not my preffered choice, but if it's loaded into a quality firearm it goes bang just like the rest of em. It's cleaned up just the same as the rest of it Don't forget - trigger time is trigger time, and a good time!

 

[miller_man]

Just a note on Tul-ammo, we have had two Kaboom at local ranges in the past three month and it was with Tul-Ammo. So remember YMMV!

Wow! Really? Injuries to the people or damage to the gun?

I've been wondering how CC will be with all these ammo companies running full tilt just trying to pump out product.

 

[StripesDude]

I just found .40, .45, 9mm, and a ton of 22lr at Walmart about an hour ago. Bought two boxes of Tulammo 45, and one box of 40 WWB.

I couldn't care less about how dirty Tulammo is - I clean after every range trip.

 

[onacoma]

Wow! Really? Injuries to the people or damage to the gun?

I've been wondering how CC will be with all these ammo companies running full tilt just trying to pump out product.

Damage to the firearms, most slides coming apart. Of course the haz-mat teams needed to clean out the undies! One of the other trainers here in the valley had both of them during a class.

The indoor ranges I go to in Mexifornia do not allow any Russian ammo in their range. There have been a couple reports out on just how dirty the ammo is and I attached the 5.56 report. Of course it is your choice.

One caveat, if I had a AK or SKS I would not hesitate in using the Tul-ammo or any Russian ammo as those firearm have different tolerances.

 

[Once]

Ahh, shot plenty of steel tulammo through a few of my guns. Not my preffered choice, but if it's loaded into a quality firearm it goes bang just like the rest of em. It's cleaned up just the same as the rest of it Don't forget - trigger time is trigger time, and a good time!

This. I never had a problem with their .45 ammo. It is dirty as crap but I clean my guns after range time anyway

 

[Kilowatt3]

One caveat, if I had a AK or SKS I would not hesitate in using the Tul-ammo or any Russian ammo as those firearm have different tolerances.

Your attached file is a great read. Thanks!

 

[miller_man]

Damage to the firearms, most slides coming apart. Of course the haz-mat teams needed to clean out the undies! One of the other trainers here in the valley had both of them during a class.

The indoor ranges I go to in Mexifornia do not allow any Russian ammo in their range. There have been a couple reports out on just how dirty the ammo is and I attached the 5.56 report. Of course it is your choice.

One caveat, if I had a AK or SKS I would not hesitate in using the Tul-ammo or any Russian ammo as those firearm have different tolerances.

Holy cow! Think I'm officially done with steel cased stuff, pretty much already made up my mind not to fool with it, but I'm positive now.

 

[dukalmighty]

Without seeiong the firearms it's hard to tell what caused the KB,it could be an overcharged case,or could be an undercharged load (Squib) that lodged the bullet in the barrel with enough oomph to cycle the slide,and a lot of shooters will pull the trigger,There was an AR15 with a Piston Upper that blew up at the local range and from what I could tell it was an ammo problem,the range took all the ammo with the same lot number off the shelf

 

[tdave]

Damage to the firearms, most slides coming apart. Of course the haz-mat teams needed to clean out the undies! One of the other trainers here in the valley had both of them during a class.

The indoor ranges I go to in Mexifornia do not allow any Russian ammo in their range. There have been a couple reports out on just how dirty the ammo is and I attached the 5.56 report. Of course it is your choice.

One caveat, if I had a AK or SKS I would not hesitate in using the Tul-ammo or any Russian ammo as those firearm have different tolerances.

I have a Mini thirty and an SKS. Experience has shown me the Ruger WWB and the SKS gets Tula and both guns are happy. Tried Tula in my Colt .45 that gun wasn't happy(lot of jamming failure to extract). I'm glad it worked for Mr Once though. Thanks for sharing the attacment.

 

[MJB_17]

I have used a lot of Tula in 9mm and a small amount of .40. The 9mm is dirty, but functions fine, the .40 was really bad. I had lots of malfunctions (stovepipes, light strikes etc.) even in an M&P. Switch to brass case and the gun fired fine, so it was definitely ammo related. Honestly, I don't think 9mm Tula is much dirtier than some of the economy brand brass out there like Federal Champion and WWB, the worst filth i have ever seen was Monarch steel or Hornady HAP.

As was mentioned above, using Tula in Com Bloc calibers is much less risky since those weapons were designed to use it. Caveat emptor: keep in mind that the guy doing QC at the Tula plant very well may be a fifth or more deep on his favorite potato elixir (vodka)...

 

[onacoma]

Without seeiong the firearms it's hard to tell what caused the KB,it could be an overcharged case

It was an overcharge and not a Squibb per the trainer. The two were sharing a box so I'm guessing it was a loading error at the factory. We had a LGS who was trying reloading and ran some over charged rounds that did in a Para 45. Of course the LGS stood up and replaced the firearm.




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[Phaedrus]

It was the cheapskate in me that forced my hand!:danceban: The supply of 9mm is actually pretty decent at Scheel's but it's $17.99/50 there. Expensive but not rapacious. I've put Tul thru in few guns in 9mm and .45 ACP and if did function fine. I've always heard that steel cased ammo increased wear on the extractor (and that does make sense) but limited quantities should be okay.

 

[Christopher67]

What does everyone think about the PPU ammo from Serbia?

 

[Eagleks]

GOTTA resist, or you won't ever be able to find that WWB ammo on the shelf anytime soon either.