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Been looking at handgunlaw.us to prepare for my upcoming road trip from TN through AR to TX.

Looks like pepper spray is iffy in TX??!:

"Chemical dispensing device" means a device, other than a small chemical dispenser..."

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A man was just recently arrested for having a 4 oz chemical spray that said Police on it. He was released and no charges were filed. Small to some is large to others. Something with Police Grade etc may get you in trouble. Stay with what is a small container and sold for personal safety."


Also, in AR, a prohibitive posting just has to say "carrying a handgun is prohibited"? Wow.

Anything else anybody can think of that I should be aware of as far as the behavior of cops, etc.? I will be traveling from West TN to northeast TX area.

Thanks!
 

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Hey Perfection - There was a post going around from a fellow member who was going to San Antonio that had some good information in it. I do know that Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas reciprocate our Tennessee permits. Texas allows carry in places that have less than 51% of their sales from alcohol, but they don't allow open carry like they do here. Also, Texas allows a knife length of 5 inches whereas it is only 4 inches here.
 
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why don't people contact the ag's office or the sheriff's office where you are going & get the information first hand???
After you get stopped are you gonna tell the cop, "The guys on the inner net said it was legal so you're all jacked up."
 

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Been looking at handgunlaw.us to prepare for my upcoming road trip from TN through AR to TX.

Looks like pepper spray is iffy in TX??!:

"Chemical dispensing device" means a device, other than a small chemical dispenser..."

"Note:
A man was just recently arrested for having a 4 oz chemical spray that said Police on it. He was released and no charges were filed. Small to some is large to others. Something with Police Grade etc may get you in trouble. Stay with what is a small container and sold for personal safety."


Also, in AR, a prohibitive posting just has to say "carrying a handgun is prohibited"? Wow.

Anything else anybody can think of that I should be aware of as far as the behavior of cops, etc.? I will be traveling from West TN to northeast TX area.

Thanks!
Well, with a little research all the information your looking for is readily available, but here is a short list of don'ts in Texas,

You can't carry in:

1. Schools
2. Polling places on day of elections
3. Courts
4. Correctional facilities
5. Racetracks
6. Secure areas at Airports
7. Anyplace displaying the proper 30.06 language stating concealed carry is prohibited
8. Bars and Clubs where 51% or greater of revenue is derived from liquor sales
9. Sporting Events - High School, College, Professional
10. While intoxicated


That's about it for Texas. Texas is a "gun friendly" stage by and large....you shouldn't have any problems concealing provided you carry a permit from a state recognized and accepted by Texas.
 

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why don't people contact the ag's office or the sheriff's office where you are going & get the information first hand???
After you get stopped are you gonna tell the cop, "The guys on the inner net said it was legal so you're all jacked up."
I've found that the cops in my state usually know next to nothing about CC law. I assume that is probably true of other states. I have done a significant amount of reading the fine print of TX law, so I don't think I'm being irresponsible here. Part of the purpose of the forum, as I see it, is to hear from people "on the ground" as far as how the law is implemented in their area. I am doing my own research as well as making this post. Also, I always independently verify whatever I hear about gun laws here on forums. As far as contacting the AG, in TN you can only get a written AG opinion if you are a member of government. Not sure about TX. I realize there are people who base everything they hear about gun laws on random junk they heard on a forum. I am not one of them. This and other forums only serve to supplement my knowledge and I always independently verify.

So relax, already!! :popout2:
 

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...you isn't a newbie...how 'bout you do some good old internet research like we do before we answer you...instead of gettin' impatient because we haven't answered?!!! you been spoiled...
...where you headed in Texas? (no need to feel pushed to answer in the next __ hours...:tongue:

...OK, I'm relaxed...might even take a nap...:tongue:
 

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Well, with a little research all the information your looking for is readily available, but here is a short list of don'ts in Texas,

You can't carry in:

1. Schools
2. Polling places on day of elections
3. Courts
4. Correctional facilities
5. Racetracks
6. Secure areas at Airports
7. Anyplace displaying the proper 30.06 language stating concealed carry is prohibited
8. Bars and Clubs where 51% or greater of revenue is derived from liquor sales
9. Sporting Events - High School, College, Professional
10. While intoxicated


That's about it for Texas. Texas is a "gun friendly" stage by and large....you shouldn't have any problems concealing provided you carry a permit from a state recognized and accepted by Texas.
Thanks. This is my first road trip going armed and I was glad to also read that I can carry at rest areas in AR and TX. Not that I would ever stop at one if I could possibly help it! :tv_horror:
 

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...you isn't a newbie...how 'bout you do some good old internet research like we do before we answer you...instead of gettin' impatient because we haven't answered?!!! you been spoiled...
...where you headed in Texas? (no need to feel pushed to answer in the next __ hours...:tongue:
Well, I read through everything handgunlaw.us had for AR and TX and also other research. Guess I am just a little nervous since this is my first road trip going armed. I suppose it was bad manners bumping the post. Sorries! :bawling:

I will be in Greenville, TX.
 

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...that was done on purpose to mollify, pacify, and permit...works pretty good, too, as long as we carry CONCEALED and don't flap our yaps...

...that little book'll keep ya outa trouble on carryin', deadly force, Castle doctrine, carryin' in vehicle...kinda like a Reader's Digest version of Tx law for us carryin' folks (and welcome guests...even those who're carryin'!)
 

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Been looking at handgunlaw.us to prepare for my upcoming road trip from TN through AR to TX.

Looks like pepper spray is iffy in TX??!:

"Chemical dispensing device" means a device, other than a small chemical dispenser..."

"Note:
A man was just recently arrested for having a 4 oz chemical spray that said Police on it. He was released and no charges were filed. Small to some is large to others. Something with Police Grade etc may get you in trouble. Stay with what is a small container and sold for personal safety."


Also, in AR, a prohibitive posting just has to say "carrying a handgun is prohibited"? Wow.

Anything else anybody can think of that I should be aware of as far as the behavior of cops, etc.? I will be traveling from West TN to northeast TX area.

Thanks!
I take it you are asking if it is OK to carry pepper in TX. Yes. I do not know if there is or is not a legal definition of
"small." I am holding a can of Fox Labs Mean Green with 1.5 ounces. It is a reasonable size container, not the
keychain size.

Note to your note, the man was released and no charges were filed.

I'd think that tells you 4 ounces is probably about where the def. of small comes in. The stuff about "for law enforcement use only"
and "police grade" is advertising and has nothing to do with law. Again, note that the man was released without charges
being filed.

Suggestion, use common sense. I've owned much larger cannisters than what I just described. Not worth the
problems caused by size unless you plan on finding yourself in the middle of a riot. Better to keep two
modest size containers; one in a pocket and an extra in another pocket or the car-- taking our high heat and
the temps car cabins reach mid-afternoon into account.
 

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I take it you are asking if it is OK to carry pepper in TX. Yes. I do not know if there is or is not a legal definition of
"small." I am holding a can of Fox Labs Mean Green with 1.5 ounces. It is a reasonable size container, not the
keychain size.

Note to your note, the man was released and no charges were filed.

I'd think that tells you 4 ounces is probably about where the def. of small comes in. The stuff about "for law enforcement use only"
and "police grade" is advertising and has nothing to do with law. Again, note that the man was released without charges
being filed.

Suggestion, use common sense. I've owned much larger cannisters than what I just described. Not worth the
problems caused by size unless you plan on finding yourself in the middle of a riot. Better to keep two
modest size containers; one in a pocket and an extra in another pocket or the car-- taking our high heat and
the temps car cabins reach mid-afternoon into account.
Ban high capacity pepper sprays! :frog:
 

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Anything else anybody can think of that I should be aware of as far as the behavior of cops, etc.? I will be traveling from West TN to northeast TX area.
Right there is a problem that can not be overcome.
It is impossible to predict the behavior of LE (IF) you are stopped for any reason.
Some LE officers know the law, many do not.
It is the ones that do not which can and often make life miserable to legal carry citizens.
It does not matter at the moment if YOU are in the right.

Having the law on your side is free, having a attorney to prove it is not.
 
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...Tx has the finest LEOs I've seen anywhere...friendly and professional...knowledgeable and, for the most part, supportive of our 2A rights...of course, we have an occasional ignoramus with an attitude...who doesn't know the law so he enforces his opinion...but he's about as common as a left-handed albino skunk...
 

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There is a very good book available at the NRA store, and 100% of the proceeds go to The ILA, (institute for legislative action) called The travelers guide to the gun laws of all 50 states, if memory serves me, and sometime it doesn't, but you'll know it when you see it. It is a great reference guide to carry with you when you travel.
 
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...I've been using that as a reference for many years...he does his homework!!!

http://www.nrastore.com/nrastore/ProductDetail.aspx?p=BK+01586&ct=e

There is a very good book available at the NRA store, and 100% of the proceeds go to The ILA, (institute for legislative action) called The travelers guide to the gun laws of all 50 states, if memory serves me, and sometime it doesn't, but you'll know it when you see it. It is a great reference guide to carry with you when you travel.
 

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FWIW: I travel TX, AR and OK often. I carry 100% of the time. Never a problem carrying concealed. TX does not allow open carry. AR soon will allow open carry. OK allows open carry with a concealed weapons permit. If you drop down to LA, virtually anything goes.

As long as a person conducts themselves in a decent manner, there will not be any trouble. If you happen to get stopped for a traffic violation, notify the officer upfront that you have a permit first and then that you are carrying. My suggestion to everyone is hand your license and permit to an officer at the same time. DO NOT do as one guy did here recently and that is jump out of the car yelling, "I have a gun." There is not a lot of future in that.
 
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