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Drift, don't go messing with the gun's innards unless it needs it! Didn't mean to lead you astray... my gun show find was one stiff rascal, even after a hundred rounds. That's when I dug around for some advice, and found that link I posted. Taking the sharp edges off adjacent parts helped quite a bit, but I also went off into the weeds with reduced-force springs on hammer and lever safety. The former resulted in light primer strikes and the latter left the lever popping free of its "closed" detent. Back to OEM parts for those!

Actually, in the same vein of shoot it first, I'd be inclined to get a baseline with whatever ammo you have first, before pursuing the fire-lapping effort. Do record your groups photographically or otherwise - I think you have a good story going here.

Does your rifle have the Micro-Groove rifling?
 

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Drift, don't go messing with the gun's innards unless it needs it! Didn't mean to lead you astray... my gun show find was one stiff rascal, even after a hundred rounds. That's when I dug around for some advice, and found that link I posted. Taking the sharp edges off adjacent parts helped quite a bit, but I also went off into the weeds with reduced-force springs on hammer and lever safety. The former resulted in light primer strikes and the latter left the lever popping free of its "closed" detent. Back to OEM parts for those!

Actually, in the same vein of shoot it first, I'd be inclined to get a baseline with whatever ammo you have first, before pursuing the fire-lapping effort. Do record your groups photographically or otherwise - I think you have a good story going here.

Does your rifle have the Micro-Groove rifling?
LOL! I was just watching that video (again)! It's hard to not just go hog wild right out of the gate. But like I said, it's not as bad as I thought, and incremental is never a bad thing. I will probably smooth or lap the area's where the lever and bolt work against each other, but stop there before going any deeper into the woods. I can only hope that the lever "latch" or whatever it's called that locks the lever in place when it closes, smooths out a bit. I really think that's where the cycling gets slowed up the most. But cutting springs is not high on my agenda, so I'll wait until I am absolutely positive I have an issue. A quick hand works too though. :)

Yes, it's got the Micro-Groove rifling. And getting a baseline is a good idea before the fire-lapping. I didn't do that with my little HMR, but I wish I had now. Good heads up. Thanks.

I've been looking and looking as to how to bed the fore stock. Actually, I wouldn't mind affixing the tube to the barrel either. I think more than any fire lapping, that'll make a huge difference. It could bugger it up too though lol. You know I'll get to it eventually, but that's another thing I'll do in time. Unless the rifle is great and there is no need. I'm definitely getting the happy trigger next Midway order though.

Thanks! It's going to be fun. I just have to keep my head and go slow.
 

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This is just too much fun for me to not keep adding to.

One of the hypotheses floating around is that the barrel band (which clamps the mag tube to the barrel) creates accuracy problems. (Don't get me going on the reckless use of the term "harmonics"... career vibration test guy here.) So I used SiC paper and a dowel to provide clearance for the barrel within the clamp, and it made no difference whatsoever in accuracy. Then I tried shooting with and without the forend installed - again, no difference for my gun. But I think it's a worthwhile experiment to run on your gun with your ammo.
 

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This is just too much fun for me to not keep adding to.

One of the hypotheses floating around is that the barrel band (which clamps the mag tube to the barrel) creates accuracy problems. (Don't get me going on the reckless use of the term "harmonics"... career vibration test guy here.) So I used SiC paper and a dowel to provide clearance for the barrel within the clamp, and it made no difference whatsoever in accuracy. Then I tried shooting with and without the forend installed - again, no difference for my gun. But I think it's a worthwhile experiment to run on your gun with your ammo.
Ah! So I see you have been exactly where I am now then. The question that remains then is, "Will I learn from your footsteps? Or insist that I have to see the same scenery lol?!"
 

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Drift...I can only tell you of my long-gone Marlin and the two vintage Winchester 94s I own currently. I've not shot any of them beyond 200 yards. The Marlin just wasn't made for long range anything, but it was acceptably accurate at 100 yards. With the wadcutters we used in competition, everything was in one hole (from a bench). The 94s group minute-of-deer at 200 with hunting ammo.My opinion? A lever action is probably going to be just fine without free floating unless you want to drive tacks, and then you would have been a lot better buying a bolt gun. :smile:
 

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**Update**

First and foremost, I've got to tell you, it's fun shooting a .30 caliber again! Especially the 30-30. The only way I can describe the recoil of the 30-30 is it's like the .45, it's got umph, but it's a nice push vs. being snappy. This is a rifle that just begs to be shot standing up! I'm loving shooting it!!

Ok where do I start? I played with this thing for just under 4 hours today (ok - I shot my G26 a couple 35 shots too)! It was fun and I'm exhausted! But not all of it was good. @gasmitty, I have bad news. I didn't get the baseline group. When I went to the range the first time, there were people at the pistol range. So I set up at the rifle range where 50 yards is the closest place you could place a target (other than a can or whatever). I put up a target and then let my first round fly standing. I hit nothing, but I did note a strange upward tugging on my mouth. What the heck?! Yeah! I was smiling from ear to ear lol.

I put another round down range, nothing. Complete miss. So I set up my rest and went to work. Pew, pew pew. Nothing. Man, the sights are so off it's not even funny!! That or this rifle is the most inaccurate thing in the world because it couldn't have been me!! :smile:

After 5 rounds of hitting jack, I had to make a call. Do I get the baseline, or do I load up my 220 grits and lapp? I shot a single 220 grit and went for the lapp. After the shot, I jumped in the car, cleaned the rifle, and then went back to shoot 4, 320 grits. But this time I took one of those full size man targets to see if I could at least hit paper.

At this point, the dude who maintains the range had the rest for the 50 yard target to repair (it was starting to rain, so I don't think he expected anyone to be out), and I could only hang things up at 100. I figured I should be able to hit a freaking huge target like that at 100. Nope. Man, I'm telling you, I'm ordering the scope tonight. My eyes suck!

But it wasn't all for not. After hiking back, in a little bit of a huff, I whipped out my Glock and threw 5 down range at 100. I got a hit lol! Woot. After walking back to see if I did, I waked back about ten yards, turned, drew and fired a quick three from the hip. No bs - they were incredibly tight right where I was aiming. So I dropped the mag, replenished and went at it again as fast as I could. I think this shooting from the hip could get addictive lol.

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Good times!

At this point it was beginning to pour rain so I packed it up and went home and cleaned out the rifle again for the next round which will be 600 grit.


Speaking of cleaning. Before I went out to do the initial base group, I wanted to clean out the barrel. Now with a lever gun, as many know already, you remove a screw to release the lever which drops out, and then you remove the bolt yadda, yadda. Well when I removed the screw, the lever didn't slide out. As a matter a fact, it didn't budge. It was so tight, I actually reviewed a couple of videos to see if I was high and forgot something. Nope. I literally had to take a hammer to it to pry it out. There was so much junk in there, it just refused to move. That was a bit shocking.

Of course after the last round of shooting with it raining hard now, I decided to give the gun a complete cleaning. I disassembled the rifle - yay!

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But I joke not. This poor rifle needed it. There was no "love" when this thing was slapped together. Have a look.

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Sure that's only wood, but when I took all the metal parts out and sprayed em in the bathroom, this is what was left in the tub.

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After oiling it all up, the gun really has become rather smooth. I think I'll use grease next time vs oil. I'm not going to "file" things down any time soon. The gun with the cleaning really is cycling quite nicely. I said I was going to get the new trigger. And I think I still will, or I will have to file down the stock one. That thing has some edges.


Anyway, that's enough of a report! Great gun. Fun to shoot. As for accuracy - who knows? That story will be told in a couple of days when Midway ships the scope (now that they have the rings in stock).​
 

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Oh wow! I've got some reading material!! Thank you. I seem to be saying that a lot to you here lately. Clearly you are a lever lover :smile:
You're very welcome.

Yes sir, I do love me some leverguns. :wink:

ETA: Nice AAR too. :hand10:
 

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You're very welcome.

Yes sir, I do love me some leverguns. :wink:

ETA: Nice AAR too. :hand10:
Nice. Honestly, I'm so glad I got this lever. It's stupid fun. There is just something about it!

FYI - I feel so dumb? ETA = Estimated time of arrival? AAR = After action report?
 

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Ok Drift. Tell us true.

That's really your tub's condition after washing off your old grimy self in your Saturday night bath, isn't it?

For shame, trying to lay that grime off on a poor new rifle.


The innards of the thing are kinda EEEEEWW aren't they?
 
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Nice. Honestly, I'm so glad I got this lever. It's stupid fun. There is just something about it!

FYI - I feel so dumb? ETA = Estimated time of arrival? AAR = After action report?
Don't feel dumb, nobody knew what they meant the first time they saw them. :wink:

ETA = Edit To Add.

AAR = After action report? :hand2:
 

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Ok Drift. Tell us true.

That's really your tub's condition after washing off your old grimy self in your Saturday night bath, isn't it?

For shame, trying to lay that grime off on a poor new rifle.


The innards of the thing are kinda EEEEEWW aren't they?
That's hilarious!

I'm telling you - that was after I had already removed all that stuff off the lever! She was some kind of dirty. Yes - EEEEEWW

It's funny, normally that kind of stuff would have me beyond myself. But somehow, not with the Marlin. You kind of have to expect that I figure on an inexpensive gun. I'm really liking how forgiving I am with this rifle so far. There are all kinds of sharp and "unfinished" parts to it internally, but I'm like meh, it's all good. I'll guess I'll just forgive a bunch when a rifle swings well, and as much as I harp on about about it, this thing swings well.


As some have mentioned my little fascination with accuracy in a lever, let me just say this; I'm not expecting miracles. But any rifle with a 16" barrel should shoot MOA. There is just no reason for them not to. I'll take 1.5." If I can get more, I'm going to chase it. Heck yeah I'm going to chase it. Shooting is an accuracy thing after all. I need all the help I can get. And in spite of the fact that it's "only" a 200 yard gun, it doesn't mean that the thing can shoot sideways lol. 200 standing... 200 sitting is a pretty tough shot. A .5 MOA difference can make all the difference.

That said, I haven't forgotten this is a truck gun. But a truck gun is the gun you'll probably go to if your life is at risk, so again, accuracy and familiarity are important I figure.

I'm really hoping this gun pans out.
 

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this thread is infectious @drift. I am coming down with some serious hankering for some rifle action! I am glad you are enjoying yours. I might have to pull out the long guns this weekend.
 
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