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Forget your Kimbers, your Springfields, your Ed Browns, and your Colt 1911's. Larry Vickers, 15 year veteran with 1st SFOD-D (Delta Force) has been a world renowned 1911 gunsmith for some time, and has trained more TIER ONE Special Operations operators than any one else in the military arsenal of spec ops marksmanship training. Now he's put his hand and his heart into a custom 1911 with the aid of Night Hawk Custom gun works.

Prior to becoming an assaulter with Delta Force, Larry Vickers spent his military assignments with 5th SFG (ABN), 10th SFG (ABN) and 11th SFG (ABN) Reserves. He, along with 22 other Delta Force operators rescued Kurt Muse from Modelo Prison during operation "Just Cause" in what was the first successful American military hostage rescue since the rescue in Japan by the 6th Rangers in WWII. Kurt Muse was an CIA operative captured by the PDF in Panama.

With a resume like this, who wouldn't want to train with, operate with, and take thier cues for a sidearm from such a person. Night Hawk custion gun works is proud to have a joint colabrative effort with Larry Vickers on the Vickers Custom 1911. With years of 1911 experience, years of custom gun work for the operators of Delta, and since being named as a member of the Pistol Smiths of America club the Vickers Custom 1911 is possibly the only pistol that I'll purchase this year for my collection. I had been contemplating building my own with some of the same cues from Larry's past guns, but this make it easier to just order one with every thing I would want in the first place.

The specs can be found at www.vickerstactical.com the price is $2,875 :santaclaus:
 

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Interesting but not super special that i see Sorry ... Also why would i need a visual on fire indictor? If safety is off its on fire it is a 1911 after all

For the price i dont really see what it give over other guns of lower price from nighthawk or others..

But if you get one post pics and let us know how it shoots
 

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Very nice 1911 but Larry does not do any of the work on the gun.So to me it is just another Night Hawk.
 

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Interesting but not super special that i see Sorry ... Also why would i need a visual on fire indictor? If safety is off its on fire it is a 1911 after all

For the price i dont really see what it give over other guns of lower price from nighthawk or others..

But if you get one post pics and let us know how it shoots
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I guess thats why inspection upon closer look (internals) is too much to ask huh??
 

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Personally I'm not a 1911 guy so I've never seen the point in the $2000+ custom guns. Nice that the CT grips are included (per the pictures).
 

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A few other options... Pocket knife just because it seems "Mandatory to add a Knife"

(Except for the .380 Gov't. Model W/ Factory antique Medallion Ivories!):


Left to Right, Top to Bottom:
Kimber Custom CDP II, Sig P245, S&W M60, Rohrbaugh R9s, Early 1970's 3" S&W M36, (Colection piece not carried; Colt Mark IV Series 80 .380acp Government Model), Case XX pocket knife..:duh: , LWS380 Seecamp, K-T (2nd Gen.) P3AT, K-T (2nd Gen.) P32; SIG p228 @ Sig shop now being "Re-fitted from DAO", to DA/SA config. :image035:
 

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Everybody has an opinion of the 'best' gun.....

The one you posted looks pretty good............& it may be your ultimate or best.

I posted my best (currently:image035: ) in a recent thread here:
http://www.combatcarry.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=10306

Mine was built at TTi...
http://www.ttiintl.com/

...by "Trapper" John Setelin. He is a survivor of the battle at Ia Drang (Valley of Death) in Novemeber 1965, the subject of the movie 'We Were Soldiers' with Mel Gibson. He was one of the 400 US soldiers, surrounded by 2000 enemy soldiers.

He has 40 years of experience building & shooting small arms. He builds custom AR-15 for match shooters as well as anybody else's needs. A lot of custom gun makers send him their products to finish.

So there are a lot of good gunmakers out there with impressive resumes.
 

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If, L.A. Vickers built it personally, it would be more interesting to me. As Bud said, it's a Nighthawk, it just happens to be spec'd by Vickers.
 

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No matter how great a weapon is,I really hate to see them "overmarketed".

I'm sure a $3000. gun is $3000. worth of gun. For some people a MilSpec is the gun for them. To allya'll(plural for ya'll) I'd say "go fer it". -------
 

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:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I guess thats why inspection upon closer look (internals) is too much to ask huh??
To each there own but if its not built by larry himself its a nighthawk Plan and simple that they are pimping his name on.

Ill stick with my other 1911's
 

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To each there own but if its not built by larry himself its a nighthawk Plan and simple that they are pimping his name on.

Ill stick with my other 1911's
The point being.............that Larry has had his hands on the project and it's made to his personal specs, not Night Hawk "Pimping" his name on one of thier pistols. I'll see Larry personally in two weeks and have been promised to fire the prototype (pictures) prior to purchasing one with some slight modifications that are not in the pics I supplied.

Maybe Larry Vickers is the "Flavor of the month" however, with what is available today, at present, this 1911 will surely be one that the major manufacturers wished they could offer!! If you want Larry to build you one personally, then expect to spend $5,000 for it. With this offering, you get Larry's input, and his stamp of approval as HIS without the additional cost of his personal labor.

I'll take that anyday over an NIB Kimber, or an STI without even having to fire it first. Too bad it's not offered in 9x23, then it would be worth even more to me. :santaclaus:
 

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Skygod, The above pistol must be really something.This with respect to Larry Vickers.

If he lends his technical advise it's $2875. If he actually builds me a pistol himself it's $5000.

You state that,"with what is available today,at present,this 1911 will surely be one that the major manufacturers wished they could offer!!" Sorry sir,i just can't agree with that. If Larry built me a weapon I do not believe that it would be that much better than a Wilson,Brown,STI,Baer,or any of the other $2000-$2500 weapons out there. If I could talk a top ranked IPSC or IDPA shooter into building me a 1911,how much would they charge me? Would it be as good or better than the Vickers/Nighthawk?

With respect to Mr.Vickers past,why would that have the degree of importance that you obviously think that it does in him building a weapon $3000 better than another high(er) end 1911 builder? Frankly sir,I'm just not that easy to impress.

You stated that you would take his weapon anyday over a NIB Kimber,or STI without having to fire it first. Suppose the Kimber or STI or any of the above mentioned weapons was what I felt that I really needed in a CCW. Would you suggest that I still give Larry/Nighthawk another $3000-$4000 of my money? If so then for what? I feel that the weapon that you are buying is high priced at $2875. At $5000. it would be grossly overpriced.

How much would you pay for a weapon that you could absolutely bet your life on in a combat situation? My answer(at least for me is) $950. That's how much I paid for my CCW.If I would have paid another $4000 for it,I wouldn't feel any safer. I have been outguned in competition by people shooting MilSpec,$500.,weapons. Also by never cleaned Glocks and duct taped Sigs. These weapons shoot and shoot and shoot. Accurately enough for combat also.

Now don't get me wrong. You have every right in the world to pay whatever you want to pay to feel safe. We all do. I simply feel that by your above post,the Nighthawk/Vickers weapon is overmarketed and overpriced. ---------
 

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My $800 S&Ws shoot 1.5 groups all day long with zero problems. Why would I want to spend close to $3k for one? All I care about is that it will go "boom" when I need it to and mine do and will!
 

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Gotta agree, my Mil-Spec is just fine by me and with the 'smith's work I've had done I've got maybe $800 in it. Do I feel confident in it? Hell I'd better, it's what I carry daily. If you're looking for "combat effective" in a weapon you can have it for a lot less than $2,800 - and it'll hurt a Hell of a lot less if it ends up sitting in an evidence locker because you actually had to use it as intended.

My Mil-Spec's got a few dings here and there and it's for sure no beauty queen but I didn't buy it for it's looks, I bought it because I wanted a reliable 5" 1911 that I could trust my life to. I actually bought it on the advice of Stephen Camp and Gary Brommeland, two men who's opinions I respect very much. Is it my "ultimate 1911?" Man, I don't even know what that is but it goes bang every time I pull the trigger, it's in my caliber of choice and I hit what I'm aiming at. That's about all I need in a defensive weapon.

If you can afford to pay out that kind of scratch for one gun then I'm honestly happy for you and I'm sure it'll be a honey of a weapon. I'd really like to see the detail pics and range report when you get it and I really do hope it serves you well without a single burp.
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You guy's seem to have given John Moses Browning your vote of confidence, so when and If I ever see any of your names being stamped on the slide of a custom 1911, I'll be sure to knock it down a few notches by comparing it to a Springfield Mil-Spec, and sure to mention that it does not have a red "ON FIRE" indicator.

Until I see your names on the slide of a high end 1911, I think I'll take your advice with a grain of salt! Remember, Larry Vickers is one of the founders of USPSA and on the board of IDPA and IPSC.........................................are you???:rolleyes:

I'v got a Mil-Spec, and Les Baer, and the Wilson Combat CQB, but I'm willing to bet that after firing this baby, none of those will compare as real world combat handgun. Larry built this baby to withstand the tortures of combat, not the display case. :hand10:
 

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I have never seen, handled or much less shot a 1911 built by Mr. Vickers. Has anyone here done so? Can we get a report? I'd be very interested in knowing what a $5000.00 1911 is like.

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More power to you, I'll put my extra cash into ammo, leather and range fees. The attitude really is uncalled for though, don'cha think?
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I think we have two distinct camps - the ''std'' and the ''loaded''.

I am not averse to either but when finances come into the equation as often they do - the ''will it go bang'' syndrome can cut in and predicate the relative ''economy'' version.

I have little doubt that a special custom worked gun can be grade A1 nice and combat reliable but - the ''thing'' that comes out the end is still a bullet :wink: That is the bit we want to deliver with adequate accuracy and reliability.

I don't think anyone is necessarily calling into question Larry's expertize and skill - more maybe the ''if it goes bang....'' aspect :smilez: Getting the job done - at lesser cost.
 

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Nice Firearm Though

A bit too heavy for my personal pocketbook but, very nice looking pistol.

I am all for any person buying any firearm/handgun that gives them pleasure.
If they can afford it & they want it...then they should go for it.
 
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