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I've got an old buddy who sends me 10-15 emails a day at times. This one was different. If you've got someone who simply will not accept using a firearm, or perhaps if you're defending yourself in the garage.....I don't know. But give a quick read, it's a thought.

"Wasp Spray - A friend who is a receptionist in a church in a high risk area was concerned about someone coming into the office on Monday to rob them when they were counting the collection. She asked the local police department about using pepper spray and they recommended to her that she get a can of wasp spray instead.

The wasp spray, they told her, can shoot up to twenty feet away and is a lot more accurate, while with the pepper spray, they have to get too close to you and could overpower you. The wasp spray temporarily blinds an attacker until they get to the hospital for an antidote. She keeps a can on her desk in the office and it doesn't attract attention from people like a can of pepper spray would. She also keeps one nearby at home for home protection. Thought this was interesting and might be of use.

On the heels of a break in and beating that left an elderly woman in Toledo dead, self defense experts have a tip that could save your life.

Val Glinka teaches self-defense to students at Sylvania Southview High School . For decades, he's suggested putting a can of wasp and hornet spray near your door or bed.

Glinka says, "This is better than anything I can teach them."

Glinka considers it inexpensive, easy to find, and more effective than mace or pepper spray. The cans typically shoot 20 to 30 feet; so if someone tries to break into your home, Glinka says "spray the culprit in the eyes". It's a tip he's given to students for decades.

It's also one he wants everyone to hear. If you're looking for protection, Glinka says look to the spray. "That's going to give you a chance to call the police; maybe get out." Maybe even save a life.

Please share this with all the people who are precious to your life

Did you also know that wasp spray will kill a snake? And a mouse! It will! Good to know, huh? It will also kill a wasp.!!!!"
 

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Thanks for posting, interesting!
 

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For wasps I usually buy a 'flying insect' spray which usually claims to work on various species in addition to wasps. All of them have contained pesticides (chemicals which are poisonous to insects) and have had a notice printed on the can that it's a violation of federal law to use the product in a way that's inconsistent with it's labeling (e.g. spraying humans rather than insects?).

Effective against bad guys or not, I wonder what the legal consequences of using wasp spray on humans might be. Would spraying poison at a person be considered deadly force? How severe a violation of federal law is it (felony?) to use this product 'improperly'?
 

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For wasps I usually buy a 'flying insect' spray which usually claims to work on various species in addition to wasps. All of them have contained pesticides (chemicals which are poisonous to insects) and have had a notice printed on the can that it's a violation of federal law to use the product in a way that's inconsistent with it's labeling (e.g. spraying humans rather than insects?).

Effective against bad guys or not, I wonder what the legal consequences of using wasp spray on humans might be. Would spraying poison at a person be considered deadly force? How severe a violation of federal law is it (felony?) to use this product 'improperly'?
I've used that stuff before on some actual wasps, and its pretty potent (If you hit a flying wasp, it'll drop out of the air to the ground dead.) That being said, I've seen the label about being against the law too. :twak:
 

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I"ve torn the tags off of pillows and remain a free man. And while it's illegal to whack your neighbor with a ball bat, there is a reasonable amount of understanding if you do it in self defense.
 

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Personal experience:
After my home was broken into, I remarked to the investigating LEO about getting a big dog. His reply, "Don't bother. Dogs only keep the amateurs and kids away."

He said the pro burgler carries a can of long range wasp spray and it will put down the baddest of dogs faster than mace. He said there's no law against carrying a can of bug spray and it's not legally defined as a "weapon" (unless you're on trial by a jury of wasps).

With the can's extended range and concentrated spray stream, it would make an effective deterent to anyone, and it contains multiple doses.

Would she be any less worried about possible legal reprecussions if she defended herself with a firearm? If anyone asks, she can say she's allergic to insect stings or has an irrational fear of wasps. Nuff said.
 

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A .38 Special - A friend who is a receptionist in a church in a high risk area was concerned about someone coming into the office on Monday to rob them when they were counting the collection. She asked the local police department about using pepper spray and they recommended to her that she get a .38 Special instead.

The .38 Special, they told her, can shoot up to twenty feet away and is a lot more accurate, while with the pepper spray or a stupid can of insecticide, they have to get too close to you and could overpower you. The .38 Special can terminate an attacker unless they can get to the hospital emergency room in time. She keeps a concealed revolver in the office and it doesn't attract attention from people like a can of pepper spray would. She also keeps one nearby at home for home protection. Thought this was interesting and might be of use.

On the heels of a break in and beating that left an elderly woman in Toledo dead, self defense experts have a tip that could save your life.

Val Glinka teaches self-defense to students at Sylvania Southview High School . For decades, he's suggested keeping a .38 Special revolver near your door or bed.

Glinka says, "This is better than anything I can teach them."

Glinka considers it inexpensive, easy to find, and more effective than mace or pepper spray. The .38 Special typically shoots 20 to 30 feet or more; so if someone tries to break into your home, Glinka says "shoot the culprit in the eyes". It's a tip he's given to students for decades.

It's also one he wants everyone to hear. If you're looking for protection, Glinka says look to the .38 Special. "That's going to give you a chance to call the police; maybe get out." Maybe even save a life.

Please share this with all the people who are precious to your life

Did you also know that a .38 Special will kill a snake? And a mouse! It will! Good to know, huh? It will also kill a wasp.!!!!"


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That is one of the dumber ideas I've read on this forum.

In fact, it's right up with chamber empty carry.
Hold a Lit Bic lighter under the wasp spray nozzle while spraying and it becomes a flame thrower.:yup:
 

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This defensive use of wasp spray has been around for years AND IT WORKS. Knock it if you want but I strongly recommend that you do not try it on yourself or your friends as it can cause severe damage to your eyes.
 

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Not any more, even hair spray. They have changed the propellents.
I don't have any wasp spray. I was looking at a can of my wife's hair spray glue. It is still plenty flammable. Dimethyl ether, alcohol, propanol, methyl gluceth-20 benzoate. 55% VOC (volatile organic chemicals - solvents). That's a pretty high solvent percentage and it is not water based.

I'll need to do some scientific research and testing before I can say this myth is busted.
 

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I don't have any wasp spray. I was looking at a can of my wife's hair spray glue. It is still plenty flammable. Dimethyl ether, alcohol, propanol, methyl gluceth-20 benzoate. 55% VOC (volatile organic chemicals - solvents). That's a pretty high solvent percentage and it is not water based.

I'll need to do some scientific research and testing before I can say this myth is busted.
Did you try it with a lighter? I have tried a number of them recently with little to no success. I used hair spray with a lighter for many years for wasps, etc. I got the idea in the 60's when fliers were found showing a Zippo taped to a hair spray can and how to use it on LE.
 

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Did you try it with a lighter? I have tried a number of them recently with little to no success. I used hair spray with a lighter for many years for wasps, etc. I got the idea in the 60's when fliers were found showing a Zippo taped to a hair spray can and how to use it on LE.
You are making me laugh. I have not tried it since the 60's myself.:rofl:
 

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Wasp Spray - not tested

Hair Spray - Plausible - Tested using White Rain hair spray. No wind. 20-30" length flame.
 

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The wasp spray, they told her, can shoot up to twenty feet away and is a lot more accurate, while with the pepper spray, they have to get too close to you and could overpower you. The wasp spray temporarily blinds an attacker until they get to the hospital for an antidote.
Note true. In fact, just what sort of temporary blindness might occur is really not well known. The active ingredient will be pyrethrum-based or pyrethroid-based. You might gets some redness, swelling and burning of the eyes if it gets in your eyes. A little redness isn't blindness. It is a moderate irritant, nothing more.

http://www.pesticide.org/PyrethrinsPyrethrum.pdf

Antidote? WTH? There isn't an antidote for pyrthrum/oid insecticides. You wash the eyes with water!!

Let's say you use Hot Shot. The MSDS says to wash with water and that their product is considered a moderate eye irritant.
Wasp & Hornet Killer MSDS

Having experienced being sprayed with wasp spray in the face while fighting wasps, I can say from person experience that the taste in my mouth was more troubling that the effect on my eyes.

Pepper spray most definitely can be delivered in a form that sprays well at distance like wasp spray.

Glinka considers it inexpensive, easy to find, and more effective than mace or pepper spray.
Glinka has no studies to back up his claim that wasp spray is more effective than pepper spray. Don't be fooled.
 
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