[mikey1003]

As reported on Ammoland, a sudden ATF rule change promulgated entirely without warning in a newsletter has reclassified a critical component of smokeless powder as a “high explosive



The problem is that there are very strict rules governing the storage and transport of high explosives, and the ammunition supply chain is totally unprepared to suddenly comply with those rules.

Overhauling the ammunition supply chain to accommodate those rules will be a long and expensive process, which would be bad enough news for ammo prices. But the knockout blow is the fact that the industry was given no warning and zero grace period, so they’re just screwed, because as of yesterday they’re now in sudden violation of federal law



Manufacturers and importers of smokeless propellant have relied on ATF private letter rulings issued prior to 2016 stating that nitrocellulose wetted with water not less than 25 percent by mass is not subject to regulation under the federal explosives laws. Accordingly, the manufacturers have set up their logistics, storage and operations consistent with nitrocellulose not being regulated as an explosive. Manufacturers and importers may not have adequate storage facilities or record keeping systems to comply with the law. Licensed manufacturers also rely on private, unlicensed vendors to store wetted nitrocellulose in facilities that do not comply with storage requirements. A number of manufacturers also report an adverse impact on their contracts to supply smokeless propellant and finished rounds of ammunition to the Department of Defense



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Breaking: Latest ATF Surprise Could Drive Ammo Prices Through the Roof - AllOutdoor.com

 

[msgt/ret]

ATF has backed down for more "study".

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160831/atf-delays-any-changes-to-nitrocellulose-regulation

 

[Truckinbutch]

Pre election posturing to try to induce panic . Workarounds will be found . We have larger issues to focus on at the present .

 

[mikey1003]

I'm still buying ahead...I did see the change after I posted

ATF changed mind today

https://www.atf.gov/explosives/docs...dustry-newsletter-june-2016-addendum/download

ATF’s June 2016 Explosives Industry Newsletter included a brief discussion of Nitrocellulose,

and attempted to clarify the circumstances under which wetted Nitrocellulose is considered a high explosive under 27 CFR, Part 555. As with all explosives, ATF’s focus is on the potential public safety risks associated with materials that can be misused or diverted to unlawful purposes. Subsequent contact from industry members who import, transport, store or employ wetted Nitrocellulose in the production of ammunition, however, has brought to our attention issues that were not fully addressed in the Newsletter and require further consultation and consideration with the industry. Accordingly, ATF has and will conduct further industry
outreach concerning wetted Nitrocellulose. In the interim, previously authorized industry practices concerning wetted Nitrocellulose will not be affected.

 

[Lindsay]

Any of these agency rules can be changed at will when we get the adults back in charge in Washington.

 

[idodishez]

Any of these agency rules can be changed at will when we get the adults back in charge in Washington.

Where are the adults? In the left corner we have Ms murderous blood on her hands, and in the right corner we have national lampoons buffoon spokesman.

We
Are
Fooked

 

[QKShooter]

No more ammunition sales to all branches of the Military should rectify that situation in a big hurry if they decide to change their mind again.

 

[Phaedrus]

Yeah, I expect the big hammer came down on ATF from the military-industrial complex. They're too big to mess with, and this would have really messed with the military.

 

[AZ Desertrat]

Any of these agency rules can be changed at will when we get the adults back in charge in Washington.

When Mr Trump takes over, a whole lot of Soros/Hillary driven agenda garbage is gonna be tossed out into the Potomac!
We the People KNOW that the whole anti-gun thing has been going on since the 60's. I for one will be glad to see
the Bill of Rights set in stone forever, and long live the Republic! Down with tyranny!

 

[rcsoftexas]

We were already screwed before most of us were born. Except MSGT/RET, he was standing there when it happened. !934, National fire arms act. And he was not in diapers.

Salute, MSGT/RET!

 

[Rhinoman]

It should have been a warning sign that trouble was coming when the Brady bunch started referring to semi-automatic firearms as "Weapons of Mass Destruction."

 

[Zsnake]

I asked "someone in the know" about this. His reply.......


OK, so apparently ATF did reclassify nitrocellulose in June as a high explosive because it contains more than 12.6% explosive properties. BUT only for storage and accountability of the item. Manufactures can get as much as they want but they have to store it properly and account for the material as it is being used. I found a good article that presents the facts, with little to no bias on either side. (I know hard to believe)

What I can see companies doing is bringing the percentage down to 12% and therefore not meeting the 12.6% threshold by the law. As long as the product still performs as expected that will exempt the product from storage and accountability regulations.

 

[awanatech]

I asked "someone in the know" about this. His reply.......


OK, so apparently ATF did reclassify nitrocellulose in June as a high explosive because it contains more than 12.6% explosive properties. BUT only for storage and accountability of the item. Manufactures can get as much as they want but they have to store it properly and account for the material as it is being used. I found a good article that presents the facts, with little to no bias on either side. (I know hard to believe)

What I can see companies doing is bringing the percentage down to 12% and therefore not meeting the 12.6% threshold by the law. As long as the product still performs as expected that will exempt the product from storage and accountability regulations.

Do you have a link to the article?

 

[mjadams61]

Wetting nitrocellulose is (apparently, I don’t claim to be an expert here) the primary means of rendering this material non-explosive for shipping and storing nitrocellulose. When nitrocellulose is then needed for the manufacture of firearms propellant, it is then dewetted (dried out) in the requisite amounts for making batches of propellant. And that is a quote from a page.

All the ATF is wondering while nitrocellulose is wet and will not be dangerous is whether to still classify it as a low level explosive or not.

http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/0...medium=email&utm_campaign=nl_pm&newsletterad=

Gotta watch out for them leftest media.

 

[msgt/ret]

We were already screwed before most of us were born. Except MSGT/RET, he was standing there when it happened. !934, National fire arms act. And he was not in diapers.

Salute, MSGT/RET!

Not quite that old but I do remember the infringements of the GCA 1968 being rammed down our throats (It’s for the children). :yup:

 

[Tcounty]

When Mr Trump takes over, a whole lot of Soros/Hillary driven agenda garbage is gonna be tossed out into the Potomac!
!

Lol you've been hoodwinked


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[ghost tracker]

Minutes after David sunk a rock beween Goliath's eyes and immediately chopped-off the giant's head, the Philistines called for more stringent legislation limiting individual access to...round stones & sharp edges. :biggrin2:

That was approximately 4000 years ago. And the relentless, ill-advised march toward disarming brave folks of sound moral compass...continues.