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I thought some here might be interested in this site I found while doing some research on a new load I'm thinking about working on and was trying to decide if I should try another powder. (I'm thinking about trying to build a "One Load" using the 115gr Hornady HAP/XTP that will shoot to 3" or better out to 25 yards in multiple handguns)

I've spent the past day and a half absorbing some of their tests on the 9mm portion of their site;

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Pretty cool and well documented, and as an added bonus lots of pics. :thumbsup:

It's given me some things to ponder regarding powder selection, primer selection and mixed brass vs. matched brass.

Apologies if it's been posted before. I did a quick search but didn't stumble upon it.
 

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Thanks, Risasi! That is a very cool site. Looks like I will be lost in the data there for a while too.
 

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I’d have been back sooner but got caught up with reading the tests and methods. Interesting site, just pulled me right in.

Just found out I mighta wasted the past couple of evenings. I sorted a couple or three thousand 9mm brass casings into 4 piles: Win, FC, Sig (nickel plated), and all other (mostly Remington, Blazer, and two more with no “name” on headstamp).

Instead I shoulda been pondering ways to buy a match grade bbl. That’s what their tests showed with the CZ, the great bbl has more effect on handgun accuracy than the casing, bullet, or powder, apparently. Fun read. Thanks @Risasi.
 

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Good looking site.

What is the reason for your trying to get this load?
 

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I’d have been back sooner but got caught up with reading the tests and methods. Interesting site, just pulled me right in.

Just found out I mighta wasted the past couple of evenings. I sorted a couple or three thousand 9mm brass casings into 4 piles: Win, FC, Sig (nickel plated), and all other (mostly Remington, Blazer, and two more with no “name” on headstamp).

Instead I shoulda been pondering ways to buy a match grade bbl. That’s what their tests showed with the CZ, the great bbl has more effect on handgun accuracy than the casing, bullet, or powder, apparently. Fun read. Thanks @Risasi.
The reason I sort has not much to do with accuracy and more to do with ease of re loading. If the cases match they go through the progressive press so much better. Some have thicker rims and need to be pushed a little as they move on to the shell plate. So by running them in matched batches I can set those aside that don't run smoothly. DR
 

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Good looking site.

What is the reason for your trying to get this load?
Because the cheap Walmart range ammo is drying up. I'm looking to put together a load that can be churned out for roughly the same cost in materials and ends up being superior. Better accuracy than cheap WWB or Federal FMJ, and improved terminal performance would be icing. A load that gives reasonable accuracy in multiple firearms. Say that will shoot to 3" or so at 25 yards in the pistols owned by my friends and myself. We all have Glocks, Walthers, HK's and a few run around with M&P Shields too.

I was leaning toward the Hornady HAP/XTP 115 grain. In bulk the HAP is about 12 cents a round. But I'm still considering options.
 

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Hey thanks a lot. That is my site. I had a ton more data and tests for 5.56 but I had this sight up for over a year, and nobody visits it, so I stopped updating. It would help if I had youtube videos, but I dont know how to make videos. I have like 25 powders for 5.56, and I think I only uploaded like 8 tests or something. 9MM, I pretty much researched it out, and I know about that. I just did a test today, with 5.56. I did BSF Carbon Fiber Barrel VS Proof Research Carbon Fiber barrel VS White Oak Arm. Predator stainless steel barrel. I continue this testing Monday.

For 9MM, I have concluded, there is like ~5 top tier powders, that I deem can "do it all well", depending what you want. But as you can see from the 34 or so tested, every single powder can do "good".

Thanks for compliment again.

If you just use EVERYTHING, all 9 MM tests, the winner was WAC, then HS-6. Those 2 are overall, #1 and #2
9MM Performance Summary

I think my favorite powder in 9 MM is BLUE DOT. Its super high performance...hard to beat its energy. I like how safe it is too. You cant get enough in the case for it to matter. I would maybe vote Alliant my favorite powder maker. That or western. Im in love with Alliant VARMINT too.
 
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