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I use Win Ranger T or Rem Golden Saber for my 9mm and .40 and in my .38 I use Win Silver Tip (muzzle flash is to bright though) I have a S&W 686 but I have not carried it since the Black Talon was available(mid 90's). I am hoping to dump the .38 J frame and move in a .357 J frame soon, So what ammo is available, Ranger T is not made for that caliber, Silver Tip has a very bright muzzle flash, and I don't know anything about Rem GS for revolvers. So what do you suggest?
 

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Winchester 110gr JHP white box for practice. Cor Bon 110 for carry, or PB or DPX.
 

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357 Mag ammo

Either MagSafe SWAT load or 125gr SJHP.
 

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In my experience the 110gr loads do not have the penetration neccessary for self defense. The 125gr bullet is the best load for the 357 Mag. In my 357 I keep Hornady 125gr XTP HP. In my tests they reliably expand to 57 cal. and maintain 92% of their original weight. That's what I call an effective load.
Just MY .02 worth.
 
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When i carry it and thats rare more of a bedside gun it gets 125 something or other SJHP's . Only thing that will shoot point of aim in this gun is 125's everthing heavyer is way low
 

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Wow all the grain sizes are so much smaller than I thought. The Black Talon were 180gr and I see most are recommending 125gr, times have changed. Thanks for the input, I appreciate it.
 

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I agree with acparmed: based on the 100+ handgun killings I've seen, I worried more about penetration and do not trust a lighter bullet.

Actually, I worry the 125-gr bullet is too light, too. Like most folks, I swallowed the Marshall & Sanow line and took up carrying the 125-grain Rem SJHPs in the late '80s. Nowadays, though, the lightest I'll ever go is Federal's 130-grain (and surprisingly sprightly) Personal Defense Hydrashoks.

And, on hikes, I carry Buffalo Bore 158-grain JHC .357s. They positively HOWL out of the gun, and they're heavy enough that I feel they'll penetrate reasonably well.
 

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My wife carries a S&W 640-1 J frame 357 and we use Remington 125gr Golden Sabre in it. Very controlabel & accurate. When I carry my S&W M19 2.5" 357 I use Federal 125gr Hi Shok. Heavy duty load - very fast - if you are recoil sensitive this might be a bit much in a J frame.

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Currently I carry the Remington G. Sabers in 125 or CCI 158 JHP depending on the season. I would prefer something 140 grain or larger based on the information that I have been getting from other forums.
 

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PMC 150gr starfire 357's is what i carry in a 3" 3" 65-3.It was the most accurate load i tried,
lower flash than most 357's.Recoil isn't bad and it shoots to POA at 15 yards.They cost less than other loads but that wasn't a primary reason i bought them.
 

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Remington 125gr JHP. Used with good results by several PDs. Of the LEO shootings I researched only one BG continued to fight after being hit, but to be fair it wasn't a serious wound and it was in the arm. A second hit ended that confrontation. Most gave up after just being shot at. If you've ever fired this round you'll understand why.

I was shooting indoors one day and some Fed LEOs were doing their quals at the other end of the range (12 lanes). I ran through some of these 125s and they came down to see what kind of cannon I was shooting. They were amazed it was "just" a 357 magnum.

BTW if you like the Black Talon get the Winchester SXT. Same basic design, just not an "evil black bullet". IIRC it has one more petal than the BTs did.

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I've read this with interest and wanted to see what all everyone said.

.357 Magnum is my .45 ACP basically in that it's the most outright effective handgun caliber I can possibly use.

I have found that any 125 grain JHP is quite serviceable. The debate is really over which particular cartridge that fits this general description is best as far as I'm concerned.

I think as long as it's good ammunition, Remington, Winchester, Speer, whatever you like, there's nothing to worry about.
 

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I carry 145gr. Winchester Silvertips in my S&W 640.

FLM: Winchester makes the Partition Gold, Speer makes the Gold Dot.
You're correct. Sorry, had a senior moment.
 

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Golden Saber 125. I'll go with the CorBon 110 +P DXP .38 Spl when it's available.

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You know, I don't even know what's in my bedside gun other than they're Speer JHP of some type in the S&W 65-3. I've shot a bunch of them to get familiar with the gun, but don't think about it any more. It's whatever the equivalent load was for the old Blazer JHPs - shot to the same point of aim so I've never bought a second box of them.

It's my set it and forget it gun in the bedroom along with a Sig 226. Then again, I'm not sure what's in that Sig either. I don't generally play with my bedroom toys.
 

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I'm with BigBore on this one...I carry 150gr. PMC Starfires in my
2 1/4" SP101. Accurate and controllable in the "little" Ruger.
 

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CCI Speer Gold Dot

Speer 357 Magnum 158 GDHP
Nice balance of Good Hard Punch & exceptional accuracy.
 
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