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Was just thinking: if you don't live in a dangerous area and you carry daily, what are the odds of ever having to use your firearm legally? I was musing that the odds of your pistol corroding, getting left in a toilet stall, dropped and damaged, rolled over by your car, stolen by someone or intentionally discharged is higher than a legally justified shooting. Thoughts?

Edit: with so many folks misunderstanding my angle, I need to clarify. I'm not against carrying. I carry daily like everyone here. I was trying to impart an optimistic spin on things. I carry and I will shoot like Rambo when the "time" comes. But I never want it to come. I'm not bloodthirsty. So I'm musing that it would be a higher probability of having silly mishaps instead of being forced to kill someone. It should have imparted a chuckle and some measure of comfort, not put anyone on the defensive about our chosen lifestyle. To those this thread offended, my apologies.
 

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I live in a relatively safe area and don't go stupid places with stupid people or do stupid things. Yet I use my carry firearm legally every day, from when I wake up to when I go to sleep. Its presence has a use.

Oh, you're talking about actually drawing and/or firing it? In that case, I use my firearms legally every week, sometimes several times a week. Lots of intentional discharges. Very likely that will happen again today and tomorrow.

Oh, you mean using it to defend myself or others? Not all that likely. Similar odds to my fire extinguisher ever being used. Or my ResQme. Or the fire escape ladders in our upstairs bedrooms. Or the airbags in my car.

But in any case, much, much greater than the odds of my pistol corroding, getting left in a toilet stall, rolled over by my car.

Dropped and damaged? If you do realistic training, this is a risk. Stolen? Yeah, maybe. But you can live in fear or you can live. Your choice.
 

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Remember, When they go deer hunting, they go where the deer are.

My sister and her husband are 'anti's' (Hunting rifles are OK, because he has one, but nobody should have a pistol). They live in a smaller town that is generally much safer than the 'big city' where I live and work.

Guess who found out first hand there's a meth epidemic in their town when they were robbed at knifepoint leaving the mall?

Rust and anti's are the biggest threat to pistols. Especially if you carry them IWB in the hot summer weather.
 

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I hope to never use my gun for self defense but....if the need arises I have the comfort of knowing I have a chance. Like others have said, carrying is an insurance policy. You hope you don't have to put in a claim put you also keep paying for coverage.
 

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My sister and her husband are 'anti's' (Hunting rifles are OK, because he has one, but nobody should have a pistol). They live in a smaller town that is generally much safer than the 'big city' where I live and work.

Guess who found out first hand there's a meth epidemic in their town when they were robbed at knifepoint leaving the mall?
Incidents like this one have a way of converting anti's.
 
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The odds of my using my pistol to defend myself are much higher than the odds of it corroding, being left in a toilet stall or being rolled over by a car.

Unless I die of a heart attack sitting in a porta-john that is run over by a car and then left exposed to the elements for a few years.
 

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Was just thinking: if you don't live in a dangerous area and you carry daily, what are the odds of ever having to use your firearm legally? I was musing that the odds of your pistol corroding, getting left in a toilet stall, dropped and damaged, rolled over by your car, stolen by someone or intentionally discharged is higher than a legally justified shooting. Thoughts?
The odds of my my pistol corroding, getting left in toilet stall or rolled over by my car are almost zero. I don't think it would be prudent to wait until I think I will need a gun or a seat belt to wear one. If I knew I was going to need a gun, I would not need a gun. Same goes for a seat belt. Unfortunatly, we never know before hand that bad things are going to happen. We just have to be prepared.
 
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Where I live I feel the odds of needing it are pretty low, but the only time I'm not packing is when I am going places I'm not allowed (school) cause you just never know.
 

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To be clear, I'm carrying daily. And I'm committed to doing so for as long as possible so I'm not saying don't carry. Even of there's a 0.001% chance of a deadly confirmation, that's enough to carry.

But I hope I never live to see that. I'd rather carry and roll over my pistol on the driveway than being forced to gun someone down in self defense. I guess I'm trying to feel better about the odds. No one really wants to kill anyone. At least I hope not.
 

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Where I live I feel the odds of needing it are pretty low, but the only time I'm not packing is when I am going places I'm not allowed (school) cause you just never know.
Isn't that against the law? Not exactly what a law abiding CCW guy should be doing.
 

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Define "dangerous area".

Many people who live in "safe" areas don't think they need to worry about self defense until they get home to their mansion in a gated community and find it ransacked because the guy running the meth lab down the street needed cash and knew where to get it.
 

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I guess one way of looking at it is... before you carried (and I do daily) how many times in your life have you been in a situation where IF you had one, you needed to pull it?

Been on this planet 60 yrs, living in Detroit suburbs most of my life (also CA and GA) and never once was in a situation... maybe I avoid "bad" areas and situations like road raging, maybe just lucky.

Didn't stop me from getting my license and carrying... no house of mine has ever burned down but there's always a first time. Own a couple fire extinguishers too.

And of course hope I never ever have to use either.
 

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Oh, you mean using it to defend myself or others? Not all that likely. Similar odds to my fire extinguisher ever being used. Or my ResQme. Or the fire escape ladders in our upstairs bedrooms. Or the airbags in my car.
Nicely said!

BTW, there was a defensive shooting yesterday here in Dayton. It didn't happen to me.

There were car wrecks today also (which didn't happen to me).

I worry about both.
 

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RIght here right now , slim I think, but I'm still feeling the 1911 IWB and like that feeling. At some probably not so distant time when the entitlements "run out" and the "give me crowd" has no clue what to do- pretty high I imagine
 

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For many of us, the odds are very small despite some trying to make it sound like we are at more risk than we really are. Our race, age, where we live and our lifestyle all affect our odds of needed to use a gun. What I did was look at the statistics for violence crime in my area and accounted for my race and where I go and came up with a number that is less than 1%. Ask yourself, how many people do you know who used a gun to defend themselves. For most of us that answer is none if we discount all those situations where people thought they were in danger with no real proof other than their fear.

I lived the first 59 years of my life without carrying a gun and despite living some of that time in public housing and working at piers, warehouses and truck terminals late at night, I never had a need for a gun. If you maintain good situational awareness and do not go to places that are high risk, you are pretty safe. I have noticed that gun forum people especially seem to focus on civilian gun incidents without considering that we are a population of over 300,000,000 people and that the stories we read affect a tiny percentage of people, even if it happens every day. I carry a pocket gun when I go out because I am old now and cannot fight or run away anymore and my mind is not as sharp as it used to be as far as being situational aware. :) I have twice displayed my gun to scare off would be bad guys but I could have also escaped by other means if I did not have the gun.

It is very telling that the great majority of gun forum members have never shot their guns in anger as a civilian. That alone should tell you something. However not everyone carries for protection. I carry more because I believe that the more armed civilians we have on the streets, the more that criminals will give pause about picking their victims. The other reason is to exercise my 2nd amendment rights. As I found out with ham radio, if few use certain radio frequencies, they are often given away to others. Use it or lose it applies to many things in life and carrying a gun is one of them.
 

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Was just thinking: if you don't live in a dangerous area and you carry daily, what are the odds of ever having to use your firearm legally? I was musing that the odds of your pistol corroding, getting left in a toilet stall, dropped and damaged, rolled over by your car, stolen by someone or intentionally discharged is higher than a legally justified shooting. Thoughts?
It doesn't matter what the odds are. At 43 years old, I have never had to extinguish a kitchen fire, but I still keep a fire extinguisher handy. I wear my seatbelt every day, not just when I'm driving during rush hour traffic.

I would prefer to carry every day and not need it than to need it once and not have it handy. Just like seatbelts and fire extinguishers, you just never know when you are going to need it no matter how safe your neighborhood/town/city is. I'm sure you could find plenty of stories of armed citizens defending themselves with a gun in supposedly safe places if you google it.
 
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