What is the longest shot you would take at a BG?
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That is a loaded question.
Let me see. If someone is shooting at me and they are within range of my wepon. I would return fire unless I had a way to get away from there. I don\'t see any other way around it. Now if they had a long range wepon and I had a pistol. I would do the duck and dive.
Now if it was if the BG was coming toward me with a gun or something? I would look for a way to get out of there. I think the 25'rule applies to me. I know that 21'can be closed in a second if someone is rushing you. I would stand them off at about 25'once in that circle I would shoot.
Another simple answer would be that I would shoot to the range limit of my weapon.
I hope that I have covered everything.
Tm
Let me see. If someone is shooting at me and they are within range of my wepon. I would return fire unless I had a way to get away from there. I don\'t see any other way around it. Now if they had a long range wepon and I had a pistol. I would do the duck and dive.
Now if it was if the BG was coming toward me with a gun or something? I would look for a way to get out of there. I think the 25'rule applies to me. I know that 21'can be closed in a second if someone is rushing you. I would stand them off at about 25'once in that circle I would shoot.
Another simple answer would be that I would shoot to the range limit of my weapon.
I hope that I have covered everything.
Tm
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With my .50 BMG I could engage and hit out to 1000 yards. With my .300 Mag...same distance. I would probably limit the .308 to about 800 yards.
I practice at 600 and 1000. We use a 9\"steel gong for a target.
With pistol...it depends. With my Sig 220 I can go to 100 no problem on a B27 sillhouett. I do practice on it out to 50 yards, our qualification(sherrif dept) is out to 25 yards. With my backup I\'ll go 50, but to be honest with you if I have to engage much past 25 yards as an LEO, Im grabbing the AR or the 12 guage.
For CCW I think it\'d be hard to argue you were in danger of your life if the shoot was much more than 20 or so yards away.If you are in an active shooter situation where you have some jerk randomly shooting at someone, I dont think itd matter what range it was.
I practice at 600 and 1000. We use a 9\"steel gong for a target.
With pistol...it depends. With my Sig 220 I can go to 100 no problem on a B27 sillhouett. I do practice on it out to 50 yards, our qualification(sherrif dept) is out to 25 yards. With my backup I\'ll go 50, but to be honest with you if I have to engage much past 25 yards as an LEO, Im grabbing the AR or the 12 guage.
For CCW I think it\'d be hard to argue you were in danger of your life if the shoot was much more than 20 or so yards away.If you are in an active shooter situation where you have some jerk randomly shooting at someone, I dont think itd matter what range it was.
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I\'d never be able to imagine every scenario that might arise.....I\'d take the shot if the situation met the legal and moral criteria for the use of deadly force, and it was a shot I could make with the equipment I had and the backstop and/or surrounding populace was not a factor.
For my pistol, probably about 15 yards. Thats where I practice the most. At 16 yards my accuracy gets worse. At 45 feet, I dont think that would be SD, but the defense of another.
Going by the rule of three (three rounds in three yards in three seconds) I\'m covered.
Going by the rule of three (three rounds in three yards in three seconds) I\'m covered.
i would almost say that in most situations that i can think of would be no more than 10 yds unless cornered....even with my xd 9 sub 25 yds is the about the most i can get out of it with dependable accuracy..but to take a human life it would be a do or die situation...
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I can hit what I aim at, at 25 yards, but have never tried with the CZ 75 PO1 beyond that. If it\'s all I have, and I NEED to make a long shot, I\'ll try it.
The shotgun, 75 yards max, the Mosin M38 can tag \'em no problme at 100. Don\'t know about the new Mosin....range only goes to 100 yards....
The shotgun, 75 yards max, the Mosin M38 can tag \'em no problme at 100. Don\'t know about the new Mosin....range only goes to 100 yards....
In the state of Arkansas, you must retreat if you can do so safely. So, the issue of legality comes into play. I would expect there to be a problem if you ingauged a threat at an extreme distance and had a safe way to get out of the area without any chance of injury to yourself. Most confortations a civilian will encounter is going to happen at extreme close range, probably at arms reach. Its nice to be a good shot at extended ranges, however for the purpose of self protection, close will be the rule of thumb.
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·Exactly my sentiments :bowdown:
From a supported position ,( barrricade ) not under hostile fire, if the conditions and the situaton were right, example- BG holding hostage with immediate intent to harm same, I would be comfortable taking a head shot at 40-50 yards with my S&W 686 4\" 357.
In a SHTF scenario, with rounds being exchanged,I think there is no set distance, where you\'re at is where you shoot.
In a SHTF scenario, with rounds being exchanged,I think there is no set distance, where you\'re at is where you shoot.
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Up to 100 yards i can reliably pin someone down with a handgun. not every shot will hit obviously, but it will be enough to keep their head down while i escape.
There\'s a parking lot at my college that is right up against I-95. I-95 is recessed and while exiting his car last year, a student was shot at from the other side. that\'s a good 40-50 yard engagement. He was unarmed, but in the same situation i would have not trouble taking cover and returning fire. The dumbass is wildly spraying shots at you so take good aim. you\'ll probably only get off 1 or 2 shots before he bolts. Hit him or miss, you stopped the threat.
There\'s a parking lot at my college that is right up against I-95. I-95 is recessed and while exiting his car last year, a student was shot at from the other side. that\'s a good 40-50 yard engagement. He was unarmed, but in the same situation i would have not trouble taking cover and returning fire. The dumbass is wildly spraying shots at you so take good aim. you\'ll probably only get off 1 or 2 shots before he bolts. Hit him or miss, you stopped the threat.
If the criteria for taking a shot are met... I would shoot at the BG where ever he was.
With my USP .45 100 and some yds is probably my absolute limit. With my XD9 sub my limit is around 75 yds. But under stress it would be real tough and these #\'s are probably optimistic.
If my life or the life of another is threatened u gotta do what u gotta do.
With my USP .45 100 and some yds is probably my absolute limit. With my XD9 sub my limit is around 75 yds. But under stress it would be real tough and these #\'s are probably optimistic.
If my life or the life of another is threatened u gotta do what u gotta do.
My eyesight is 20/20 with corrective glasses. I can\'t make out someone\'s features at 60yds.
It\'s 100feet from my front door to the street of my property, 200ft from the back of my house to the edge of my property, 60feet on each side.
So how far out would I engage? As far as my voice travels combined with as far away as I percieve a threat to my existence/home is.
What do you do if you HAPPEN to be using your bird watching binoculars and see five guys creeping/running towards your house from 200 yards away? How do you know there is a threat directed at you? Don\'t you have to visually or verbally engage the suspect/target 1st?
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It\'s 100feet from my front door to the street of my property, 200ft from the back of my house to the edge of my property, 60feet on each side.
So how far out would I engage? As far as my voice travels combined with as far away as I percieve a threat to my existence/home is.
What do you do if you HAPPEN to be using your bird watching binoculars and see five guys creeping/running towards your house from 200 yards away? How do you know there is a threat directed at you? Don\'t you have to visually or verbally engage the suspect/target 1st?
NYC Drew
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