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First off, I am only looking for these rounds out of pure interest. I have no real reason to need them but I would like to get a box or two of the old Chineese Armor Piercing Incinderary rounds in 7.62x39. I see a lot of testing of them on Youtube but haven't been able to find anywhere to purchase a box. I was hoping someone might have a lead on where to get them??? I did some asking around and they are not illegal to own, only illegal to import more of them. Those that are already in the U.S. are perfectly fine to have. Any suggestions on where to start looking?
 

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Try Sportsman's Guide they used to advertise them.
 

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I don't believe that is the case in Florida per Florida Statute 790.31 Armor-piercing or exploding ammunition or dragon’s breath shotgun shells, bolo shells, or flechette shells prohibited.—

In any case, just to prevent a possible hassle with the authorities, I don't own any......
 

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Not sure if this is what you're after or not:
[url=http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index.php/cName/762x39-specialty]Specialty : Ammo To Go[/URL]

Here's a primer on Chicom Ammo:
http://www.dave-cushman.net/shot/762x39_cartridge.html

From a couple week old thread on Akfiles. I have zero relationship or experience with these guys and would never call but I am more conservative than most.

"Norinco steel case 7.62x39 mm green box 180 rounds $100
Located in louisiana call for more info 985-5161255 "
 

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I don't believe that is the case in Florida per Florida Statute 790.31 Armor-piercing or exploding ammunition or dragon’s breath shotgun shells, bolo shells, or flechette shells prohibited.—

In any case, just to prevent a possible hassle with the authorities, I don't own any......
Me either. I don't need them though.;-)
 

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You might want to double check on the legality issue, API could be considered a destructive device. I'm not saying I don't think it's legal, but I definitely suggest checking to be sure.
 

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I don't believe that is the case in Florida per Florida Statute 790.31 Armor-piercing or exploding ammunition or dragon’s breath shotgun shells, bolo shells, or flechette shells prohibited.—

In any case, just to prevent a possible hassle with the authorities, I don't own any......

Please understand what you are reading before posting. The above quote is incomplete and mis-leading for several reasons.

1) This statute is specifically designed to define the limits of possession and use of the subject ammo. It further distinguishes the differences between "possession" and/or "possession WHILE loaded in a handgun" (defined WITHIN the statute as....“Handgun” means a firearm capable of being carried and used by one hand, such as a pistol or revolver.)

2)Simple Possession of the "Armor Piercing" rounds is not prohibited by this statute.. It is expressly prohibited to possess this ammo WHILE loaded in a "handgun".

3)Simple possession of "exploding" ammo is not prohibited by this statute. It is expressly prohibited to possess this ammo while loaded in any FIREARM.


Please be careful to pass ACCURATE facts when dealing with this subject matter. Inaccuracy is the leading reason for such heated gun control debates in recent years. To avoid any hassle with authorities, know your limits, know the law. If you don't know, for god's sake...please don't share inaccurate or mis-leading information.
 

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Im really amazed by ...the complexity of firearms laws/regulations. While everyone has heard that "Ignorance of the law is no excuse", the legal maxim was meant for easily understood things. Such as murder, burglary, theft, speeding, etc. Not for technically complex subjects, ever changing ATF interpretations, and laws that are changed and rearranged about as often as the stairs at Hogwarts.

Like Chuck, I err on the side of caution, (or at least try to do so), in these areas. Not trying to high jack a thread, but I think its virtually impossible for the average gun owning enthusiast to keep track of this stuff.

Its really amazing. Its one of the only areas that I can think of that average citizens are expected to keep up with such changing and complex regulations, laws, interpretations of same, etc, AND that has such draconian penalties should one either trip up, OR if one is simply unlucky enough to have someone claim that you violated something, when there was zero intent to do so, and when there might well be conflicting interpretations in the area.

The general criminal code is a picnic compared to this stuff.
 

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Any AP ammo that can be fired in a handgun is illagle to import/make etc after take your pick the 86FOPA or the late 90s OPA ...Due to Olmpic making a x39 handgun all steel core ammo for that caliber was banned as AP though it is not .....This means any company or store that holds a FFL may not sell etc it .. That is illagle ...So the only source would be private party or non ffl stores..

That said as someone who collects the old stuff and has a bunch of normal China com and E german steel core and other steel cores .. I have never seen it .. More then likely exp to pay a lot ...

You can still buy normal non AP tracer rounds for the x39 thous are legal to sell own etc .. AP no .. I too would like to find some ...


This is why you see 50bmg API rounds not any other ( green tip 223 are exptemted from the law as are 0306 black tips )


Note some people get API or AP bulletss and load them in cartiges made pre officer act that by my undersanding is legal and may be about the only way .. Find a 30 cal AP or API tip and load it in older cartgiges ...

Note also some state CA I think FL and other ban this


As for this being a DD I am not sure the rule say over 50 cal rounds are illagl in most case if the gun is not sporting and if it has a certian ammont of expolisve change and over it is no go ( my dealer tells me for some guns like 20mm they made or make low load HE rounds that were are still legal ) ..Since these do not expoled they should still be legal ..Rembr there is a lot of API or AP ammo out there esp for older surpluse rounds or rifle rounds ( heck I have seen 50 bmg API rounds )


Best bet is to check the auctiosn sites or gun shows ... As I said FFL dealers may not sell this stuff or any AP ammo or at least steel core hangun ammo ..
 

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Look at gun shows.

That's about the only place you'll find 'em any more.

Expect to pay an arm and a leg for them, as well.
 

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Look at gun shows.

That's about the only place you'll find 'em any more.

Expect to pay an arm and a leg for them, as well.
Yep 100+ any ammo no longer legal to import will cost you big esp the more exotic stuff .. Even normal steel core ammo is going for a lot .. Never mind the rarer stuff like Hirtenber or Swed SMG AP ammo
 
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I would love to have a couple hundred rounds of AP or APT AK ammo. All I have is some old ought 6 AP ammo. One of my prized possessions is a full box of Lake City 30.06 AP my step dad gave me.
 
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I don't believe that is the case in Florida per Florida Statute 790.31 Armor-piercing or exploding ammunition or dragon’s breath shotgun shells, bolo shells, or flechette shells prohibited.— In any case, just to prevent a possible hassle with the authorities, I don't own any......
:haha: :haha: :haha:

We were in Flaarahduh for New Years Eve once and we went to some fireworks store there and the stuff we walked out with was amassing …. what ah fun night we had on the beach lightin up the sky …. all we had to do was fill out a form and we had to pick a box too check verifying we we’re going to use it to (A) use as an emergence railroad signal or (B) scare off birds from the runways of an airport that so as not to infer with air traffic

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I don't believe that is the case in Florida per Florida Statute 790.31 Armor-piercing or exploding ammunition or dragon’s breath shotgun shells, bolo shells, or flechette shells prohibited.—

In any case, just to prevent a possible hassle with the authorities, I don't own any......
The ban on AP ammo only applies to handgun ammunition except for .308 which is banned because a lot of people build .308 handguns. But, the law should really only apply to concealable handgun ammo. Being able to hold a short rifle with one hand shouldn't count as a true handgun.

Fla. Stat. § 790.31(2)(b). ⤴
“Armor-piercing bullet” is defined as any bullet which has a steel inner core or core of equivalent hardness and a truncated cone and which is designed for use in a handgun as an armor-piercing or metal-piercing bullet. Fla. Stat. § 790.31(1)(a).

I live in Florida and own a lot of AP rifle ammo. They sell them at all the gun shows out in the open.
 

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