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A liberal friend was on his bandwagon again this weekend and knowing that I am pro 2nd Amendment, he inquired if there are any places that I thought that it would not be appropriate to carry. Being a bit if a smart a$$, I responded yes… the shower and any place in the hospital where you can’t wear any type of metal because of the machines. Otherwise, no.

What are your thoughts? Should concealed carry be permitted everywhere? Is there any place where we should not be able to carry? If so, where?
 

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'Carry' shouldn't be outlawed anywhere, open or concealed, nor should it require a permit, or cost me a dime.

However, I don't think it's wise to carry in mental institutions, prisons, etc.

Similar to freedom of speech, I don't feel it's appropriate to talk like a sailor in a room full of 4 year olds.

Unfortunately, people seem to have lost common sense, and the government thinks it needs to protect us from ourselves. Somewhere along the line the government stopped being 'for the people', and started pushing their own agenda, regardless of what 'the people' want.
 

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Similar to freedom of speech, I don't feel it's appropriate to talk like a sailor in a room full of 4 year olds.
Expect a licence to allow you to do so to be available before 2016.

But yes, I agree, I don't think there should be sanctioned "carry" and "no carry" environments. The Constitution applies everywhere. Or at least, it should...
 

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'Carry' shouldn't be outlawed anywhere, open or concealed, nor should it require a permit, or cost me a dime.

However, I don't think it's wise to carry in mental institutions, prisons, etc.

Similar to freedom of speech, I don't feel it's appropriate to talk like a sailor in a room full of 4 year olds.

Unfortunately, people seem to have lost common sense, and the government thinks it needs to protect us from ourselves. Somewhere along the line the government stopped being 'for the people', and started pushing their own agenda, regardless of what 'the people' want.
What he said
 

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You should be able to carry anywhere you please...but private businesses/institutions/etc still reserve the right to ask you not to because it is private property. Not that I agree with that stance but like I said, it is their right.
 

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Debating a liberal is like trying to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time & annoys the pig. As for the places I chose not to carry, that's no one's business. Certainly not the concern of a gun control advocate looking to debate my decisions. It's as subjective & personal as my opinions about...everything else! Go get some more conservative, Pro 2nd Amendment friends and let this liberal argue with himself. You're not gonna' change his mind with even the most logical facts & irrefutable points. Now, where's that tone-deaf pig? :biggrin2:
 

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It's dumb to restrict the good guys from carying anywhere while the bad guys are free to do whatever they want. By their nature, they don't give a rat's behind about the rules. People have been killed by criminals in church, work, old folks homes, schools, government buildings, festivals, bars, restaurants, theaters, malls, hospitals and anywhere else you can think of.
 

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I would agree with the general sentiment here already, but I would add this: I am slightly more inclined to allow myself to be dissarmed in locations where there is armed physical security and metal detectors at every available entrance to prevent everyone from being armed. Police stations, courthouses, etc. But if they don't forcibly dissarm EVERYONE that comes in, then I don't think anyone should be dissarmed.
 

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I agree that carry should be allowed everywhere. Here in Texas, we have a section of the law called 30.06 which allows individuals and businesses to post signs prohibiting concealed carry. The law specifies the wording, size of the lettering, etc. I've written to my state representatives asking them to repeal the law. Basically, 30.06 disarms legally permitted, law-abiding citizens and creates "gun-free" zones that criminals will not honor.
 

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'Carry' shouldn't be outlawed anywhere, open or concealed, nor should it require a permit, or cost me a dime.
Been saying that for years. Government is making us pay for the rights we already have.
 

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If I can be trusted to carry into madhouses like wal-mart on black Friday or anytime during the Christmas season and no one gets shot why can't I be trusted everywhere? Where is it guaranteed to be safe? I can see not carrying in a mental institution,prison, or carrying while consuming alcohol but really what is different about walking into the post office to ship a package, attending a band performance at a school, or going into a bank to withdraw money from my account?
 

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I believe carry of defensive weapons should be allowed anywhere and everywhere a citizen goes. Carrying the means of one's own defense does not cause overt harm of others.

But I believe that overt criminal acts of harm to others should be treated as crimes ("banned," if you will), as they already are.

In this way, the 2A is upheld for what it says, that the right to be armed and bear those arms shall not be infringed; yet, those choosing to overtly act to the harm of others are held accountable for such material harms caused, not merely punished for fears over what might've been.


Similar to freedom of speech, I don't feel it's appropriate to talk like a sailor in a room full of 4 year olds.
Speech in rooms of 4yr old children shouldn't be prohibited or banned.

But the overt harm caused to people in such rooms should be gone after, for the harm it causes, even in situations in which the harm came from the particular speech used. That is, so long as it's material harm. In that sense, no ban/prohibition on speech exists; rather, a requirement of having to account for harm one causes is required. Same with the 1A, 2A.


Somewhere along the line the government stopped being 'for the people', and started pushing their own agenda, regardless of what 'the people' want.
Yup.
 

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No goverment body should be allowed to restrict where we are able to carry. Any private business should be able to prohibit firearms on their private property. I believe in personal rights, which includes business owners.
 
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