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I remember reading about this round back when I could remember a lot more [ along time ago!] It was a 45cal. and called the flying ashtray because of the size of hollow point cavity. Who made it and was it any good?
 

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Speer. Can't speak to the quality, but it was a 200 gr .45, and that never appealed to me.
 

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That is a memory lane trip! IIRC the biggest challenge was reliable feeding in 45 acp guns at the time. Other than basic 1911's there wasn't much else on the market and we know how the vintage 1911s didn't like such big HP. Seems it was in the late 70's maybe into the 80's. I'm getting a little fuzzy also, too much info for available circuits.
 

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.45 cal. 200 gr.0JHP made by Speer. Legend has it that you could take a cigarette and extinguish it into the hollow point.

 

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In the Sept 2009 issue of OnTarget, Mas Ayoob wrote an article about the Kahr K45 in which he recounts the origins of the "flying ashtray" moniker.

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Back in the day, Speer’s 200-grain jacketed hollow point was nicknamed “the flying ashtray” by the late, great gun writer and Outstanding American Handgunner Award recipient, Dean Grennell. He wasn’t exaggerating this bullet’s wide-mouth profile. In the time before high-tech bullets, this was the top-performing jacketed .45 hollow point in street shootings, because when it expanded, it expanded wide, and even when it didn’t it still chopped a wide track through flesh and bone. It was also the ultimate test of .45 auto pistol reliability, because its combination of wide frontal surface and relatively short overall length made it difficult to feed. It was also pretty darn accurate.
 

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I've still got 5 boxes of this round in storage from days gone by. My milspec 1911's that were throated fed them like no one's business. Carried that load on the streets for quite a few years, from about 83-88 or thereabouts.
 

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.45 cal. 200 gr.0JHP made by Speer. Legend has it that you could take a cigarette and extinguish it into the hollow point.

Wow!

So, the 200 gr. .45 ACP Speer JHP Flying Ashtray "evolved" into a .38 Special HBWC loaded backwards, then into the Federal .38 Nyclad SWCHP, and ultimately into the Gold Dot JHP.

What a load of nonsense!
 
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LOL!
 
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