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They say it because it is the tiny piece of truth embedded in their disinformation that makes their lies believable. Never mind that it's anybody's guess how many such transactions take place; it must certainly be comparativley few. Furthermore, to characterize a private sale as a loophole suggests hidden or even nefarious motives whereas to call it private risks reminding people that some things are no one else's business and should remain so. It is how the hoi polloi are influenced and controlled.
 

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They say it because it is the tiny piece of truth embedded in their disinformation that makes their lies believable. Never mind that it's anybody's guess how many such transactions take place; it must certainly be comparativley few. Furthermore, to characterize a private sale as a loophole suggests hidden or even nefarious motives whereas to call it private risks reminding people that some things are no one else's business and should remain so. It is how the hoi polloi are influenced and controlled.
It doesn't matter what is a fact, what is based on fact, or what is just a slice of truth. The gun grabbers will take any facts that support their argument and ignore other facts that would expose their false narrative. Then they get the MSM to repeat it over and over until the false becomes the "truth". Have you seen how they perpeturate the Trump "good people" hoax?
 
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The only private transfers allowed in Oregon are between immediate family. All other transfers have to go through a FFL with a background check. If I want to lend you a rifle for hunting season, we have to go to a licensed dealer and pay for the transfer and state police background check. When you give it back after hunting season, we have to go through the process again. That is what the liberals and RINOs want nationally.

Oregon also has the red-flag laws. Anyone you have ever had any relationship with can petition a liberal judge to have you declared a danger to yourself or others and have your guns confiscated. My ex-wife who I haven't seen in over thirty-five years can tell a judge I am a danger and have all of my guns confiscated. Again, this is what the liberals and RINOs want nationally.

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The only private transfers allowed in Oregon are between immediate family. All other transfers have to go through a FFL with a background check. If I want to lend you a rifle for hunting season, we have to go to a licensed dealer and pay for the transfer and state police background check. When you give it back after hunting season, we have to go through the process again. That is what the liberals and RINOs want nationally.

Oregon also has the red-flag laws. Anyone you have ever had any relationship with can petition a liberal judge to have you declared a danger to yourself or others and have your guns confiscated. My ex-wife who I haven't seen in over thirty-five years can tell a judge I am a danger and have all of my guns confiscated. Again, this is what the liberals and RINOs want nationally.

BOHICA!
Reading you Lima Charlie, LimaCharlie.
 

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The only private transfers allowed in Oregon are between immediate family. All other transfers have to go through a FFL with a background check. If I want to lend you a rifle for hunting season, we have to go to a licensed dealer and pay for the transfer and state police background check. When you give it back after hunting season, we have to go through the process again. That is what the liberals and RINOs want nationally.

Oregon also has the red-flag laws. Anyone you have ever had any relationship with can petition a liberal judge to have you declared a danger to yourself or others and have your guns confiscated. My ex-wife who I haven't seen in over thirty-five years can tell a judge I am a danger and have all of my guns confiscated. Again, this is what the liberals and RINOs want nationally.

BOHICA!
No more to the leftist agenda than that, at least until we get to the ban/confiscation/turn-in part.
 
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When has facts or truth entered into the statements of a Liberal, Progressive and more recently any Democrat on anything?

Of course if anyone "wants" to bypass a law, note I did not say violate :image035: as that might be considered hurtful to criminals, they will find a way and last I checked even California doesn't have a border fence at other state lines. Though that might be their next idea. A border fence with Oregon, Nevada and Arizona to keep out guns they would buy as effective :confused: while one to keep out illegal immigrants would be a waste of money. In their defense if you are willing to "open" the gate and turn your back no "wall" is effective.
 

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It's all part of the "propaganda" - and that's exactly what it is. It is similar to how "that crowd" has helped to emphasis the term semi-automatic and correlated it with phrases such as "a stream of bullets" to make the masses believe that semi-automatic is akin to a machine gun. I've had numerous conversations with people that believe "semi-automatic" operates "like a machine gun". I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but the media either knowingly or through incompetence helps to propagate such falsehoods.
 

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Some idiot named Beto came to the gun show in Conway just to have his picture taken in a gum show. He's already spinning it to his advantage. Mr. Orourke or whatever his name is, has personally vowed to eliminate private sales of guns in his bid for President.

He's only running as a Democrat because that's the nearest thing there is to socialism lite.
 

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Some idiot named Beto came to the gun show in Conway just to have his picture taken in a gum show. He's already spinning it to his advantage. Mr. Orourke or whatever his name is, has personally vowed to eliminate private sales of guns in his bid for President.

He's only running as a Democrat because that's the nearest thing there is to socialism lite.
Those photos of Himmler visiting the camp came to mind when I read the article.
 

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Some idiot named Beto came to the gun show in Conway just to have his picture taken in a gum show. He's already spinning it to his advantage. Mr. Orourke or whatever his name is, has personally vowed to eliminate private sales of guns in his bid for President.

He's only running as a Democrat because that's the nearest thing there is to socialism lite.
I don’t think he’s running as a democrat because of their fondness for socialism. I think he runs as a democrat because they tolerate his voice while he pursues his quest of getting a job so he has authority over the riff raff. It’s about control for him, not what’s best for the minions. He just smiles nicely and looks harmless while he plots his reign.
 

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It doesn't matter because nearly all of these mass shooting have been by somebody who went to a gun shop and bought a gun legally in the last few weeks before the shooting and had passed the background check even though somebody had called the authorities and told them that this person was bat crap crazy and a threat to those around them. Don't they say " he went out and bought the gun because there was no reason why he couldn't buy it legally." Then we always think that maybe the fact that everybody knew that he was doing crazy stuff for the last ten years should have been a deterrent?
It almost seems like the fact that they allow these particular sales is because they need ammunition for the anti-gun crowd.
 

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"Shall not be infringed upon" - both sides are well versed in the art of deception.
 

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It's not so much what they say, it's what they imply.

The way they say it, one would believe that you can purchase online and get delivery direct( no background ck) to your house. Which is patently FALSE.

Is it possible to initiate a direct person to person transaction online or at a Gun Show? Of course it is. These transactions have no requirement for a background ck, as long as they are completed face to face.

It's their BLATANT MISREPRESENTATION of the process that irritates me.
 

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It's not so much what they say, it's what they imply.

The way they say it, one would believe that you can purchase online and get delivery direct( no background ck) to your house. Which is patently FALSE.

Is it possible to initiate a direct person to person transaction online or at a Gun Show? Of course it is. These transactions have no requirement for a background ck, as long as they are completed face to face.

It's their BLATANT MISREPRESENTATION of the process that irritates me.
Stated another way: THEY LIE !!!
 

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It's not so much what they say, it's what they imply.

The way they say it, one would believe that you can purchase online and get delivery direct( no background ck) to your house. Which is patently FALSE.

Is it possible to initiate a direct person to person transaction online or at a Gun Show? Of course it is. These transactions have no requirement for a background ck, as long as they are completed face to face.

It's their BLATANT MISREPRESENTATION of the process that irritates me.
Oswald bought his weapon by mail order. The Gun Control Act of 1968 closed that loophole.
 

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Oswald bought his weapon by mail order. The Gun Control Act of 1968 closed that loophole.
Your point?

Are the Dems still holding a grudge over Kennedy?

They are still misrepresenting the current laws and processes as they pertain to online and gun show purchases.
 

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Your point?

Are the Dems still holding a grudge over Kennedy?

They are still misrepresenting the current laws and processes as they pertain to online and gun show purchases.
I was responding to this line from your previous post.....

The way they say it, one would believe that you can purchase online and get delivery direct( no background ck) to your house. Which is patently FALSE.

Oswald had his shipped to his home without a background check, but that loophole has been closed for awhile, so you are correct. Sorry, if I didn't make that clear.
 

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It's not so much what they say, it's what they imply.

The way they say it, one would believe that you can purchase online and get delivery direct( no background ck) to your house. Which is patently FALSE.

Is it possible to initiate a direct person to person transaction online or at a Gun Show? Of course it is. These transactions have no requirement for a background ck, as long as they are completed face to face.

It's their BLATANT MISREPRESENTATION of the process that irritates me.
I think what they mean by the "loopholes" is the person to person transaction ought to be illegal and that all sales should have to go through an FFL. At least those who understand the current law. The problem is, most don't understand the current laws and regulations and merely parrot back what theyv'e heard. Garbage in, garbage out. Saw recently Elizabeth Warren stated if she is elected president she will ban bump stocks on day 1. Note to Fauxcahontas: The bump stock ban went into effect 26 March 2019. This is a classic example of bleating on about something she knows nothing about.
 

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Stated another way: THEY LIE !!!
This^!!

When I have told people that you cant buy guns online without a background check, I have had a couple people back peddle on the subject and try to tell me that buying something that someone lists on armslist, or where ever, and meeting that person in a parking lot is considered an online transaction. That is just them playing dumb hoping to not get called out for their lies. Buying a gun in that manner is no different than me looking on Targets website to see if they sell a product, then going to their store and buying it, yet nobody would ever consider that an online purchase.
 
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