Workable Holster Design?
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Not for concealed carry, but for the ocassional carry it has it's place.
It would add weight to that area on the belt. That could be significant in the case of the .45 ACP or Glocks with high capacity magazines.
It would make concealing the rig more difficult.
It appears, as has been mentioned, that the height of the mag carrier would cause the gun to come into contact with it. At best it would change the way you would normally draw the gun.
All -in-all, I do not think it is a workable design. But that is the way things are improved.
Jerry
It would make concealing the rig more difficult.
It appears, as has been mentioned, that the height of the mag carrier would cause the gun to come into contact with it. At best it would change the way you would normally draw the gun.
All -in-all, I do not think it is a workable design. But that is the way things are improved.
Jerry
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I Honestly Don't Know
So Far......Interesting Worthwhile Thoughts.
I came across the photo on the web.
It's an odd design that some "on line leather worker" has designed for carry.
Just wondering if anybody thought it was practical?
I'm also wondering if a heavy "full weight" firearm would pull in tight enough & what forum member opinions were on the attached spare mag holder in that exact location.
All Opinions Still Welcome. Chime in. :smile:
It's not my holster design so you won't hurt my feelings no matter what your particular opinion is.
To me the actual construction work looks like (for sure) it could have been cut out better....but, is the basic design sound & practical?
I have no idea.
I'm just interested in feedback.
I wonder if Brommeland or Larsen have ever "played around" with any design like it.
So Far......Interesting Worthwhile Thoughts.
I came across the photo on the web.
It's an odd design that some "on line leather worker" has designed for carry.
Just wondering if anybody thought it was practical?
I'm also wondering if a heavy "full weight" firearm would pull in tight enough & what forum member opinions were on the attached spare mag holder in that exact location.
All Opinions Still Welcome. Chime in. :smile:
It's not my holster design so you won't hurt my feelings no matter what your particular opinion is.
To me the actual construction work looks like (for sure) it could have been cut out better....but, is the basic design sound & practical?
I have no idea.
I'm just interested in feedback.
I wonder if Brommeland or Larsen have ever "played around" with any design like it.
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That if the holster fit the firearm well enough so that no holster retention strap was needed that it might be OK.
Me personally...I would not like a holster with the retention strap snap that close to the spare mag location.
Maybe???????? with a non retention strap holster and a tighter fitting magazine holder ALSO with no retention strap it might be a cooler design.
Also: What exact location (or O-Clock) on the gun belt would you wear it?
That if the holster fit the firearm well enough so that no holster retention strap was needed that it might be OK.
Me personally...I would not like a holster with the retention strap snap that close to the spare mag location.
Maybe???????? with a non retention strap holster and a tighter fitting magazine holder ALSO with no retention strap it might be a cooler design.
Also: What exact location (or O-Clock) on the gun belt would you wear it?
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Interesting QK - and looking at belt slots it does have maybe 20º of cant which is good. That would help negate the mag carrier interference but I wonder too if the design could not allow mag carrier to be significantly lower.
Personally if I used that for carry I'd want no retension strap or retension vover over mag, and again as said - mag pocket lower. It could work - but main crit' otherwise might be - don't really want any spare mag strong side that way - unless in a sho rig when of course weak hand can grab.
Dunno tho - maybe with no restraining flap and that generous cant - weak hand could make a useful grab. hard to be sure without trying it.
I think it's an idea with some potential but needs tweaked and probably not a huge market demand I'd suspect.
Personally if I used that for carry I'd want no retension strap or retension vover over mag, and again as said - mag pocket lower. It could work - but main crit' otherwise might be - don't really want any spare mag strong side that way - unless in a sho rig when of course weak hand can grab.
Dunno tho - maybe with no restraining flap and that generous cant - weak hand could make a useful grab. hard to be sure without trying it.
I think it's an idea with some potential but needs tweaked and probably not a huge market demand I'd suspect.
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IMO, its gonna put ALOT of weight on one spot. For desert/hiking kinda carry it would be ok......but I want my spare mags on my weak side when Carrying Concealed. I want my strong hand to be hitting the mag release while my weak one is getting my spare.
Shoot well.
Shoot well.
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That sort of design has been done before. I think the original versions I saw may have been a circa '70 DeSantis design for revolvers that someone tried to translate into pistol carry. The DeSantis design was kinda neat because revovler shooters at that time were taught to change the weapon to their off side hand and load with their strong hand (actually, I still do it that way :biggrin: ).
Consequently, the ammo was carried on the strong hand side of their belt. That is not the case with a pistol. Since the wearer would be trying to acquire the mag with his off side hand and the holster looks like it's meant to be carried behind the point of the strong side hip, reaching it would be a real problem. That's especially true of anyone who has suffered arm length shrinkage due to beer consumption :wink: .
The holster pictured seems to be of pretty good construction but I think it could use some design improvements. If a person wanted a holster/mag combination like that, I think deleting the mag carrier flap and lowering the mag carrier bottom down to as near level with the muzzle as possible would minimize front sight hangups when the pistol is drawn. If a third belt loop isn't on the holster pictured, it should be added since the span between the two slots will probably allow the holster to sag out.
If someone wanted to carry that way or experiment with it, you can just tread your strong side holster on your belt first followed by your single mag carrier. That would place them in the same relative position and take up about the same space but still allow you to regulate the distance between the two depending on your taste.
Consequently, the ammo was carried on the strong hand side of their belt. That is not the case with a pistol. Since the wearer would be trying to acquire the mag with his off side hand and the holster looks like it's meant to be carried behind the point of the strong side hip, reaching it would be a real problem. That's especially true of anyone who has suffered arm length shrinkage due to beer consumption :wink: .
The holster pictured seems to be of pretty good construction but I think it could use some design improvements. If a person wanted a holster/mag combination like that, I think deleting the mag carrier flap and lowering the mag carrier bottom down to as near level with the muzzle as possible would minimize front sight hangups when the pistol is drawn. If a third belt loop isn't on the holster pictured, it should be added since the span between the two slots will probably allow the holster to sag out.
If someone wanted to carry that way or experiment with it, you can just tread your strong side holster on your belt first followed by your single mag carrier. That would place them in the same relative position and take up about the same space but still allow you to regulate the distance between the two depending on your taste.
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Thanks Folks
Great comments Matt & Eric.
I actually did see a Really Nice Western Carved 1911 pistol holster (years ago) that had two integral molded mag holders located - One Below and one alongside (in front of) the main molded part of the holster body. It's hard to explain. :dead:
The big difference was that it was an Open Carry "Camp & Wilderness Trek" type Holster...and not intended for any sort of concealment.
It was a beautiful piece of custom tooled antique leather work though...and I'm sorry now that I didn't buy it...just to own it.
Great comments Matt & Eric.
I actually did see a Really Nice Western Carved 1911 pistol holster (years ago) that had two integral molded mag holders located - One Below and one alongside (in front of) the main molded part of the holster body. It's hard to explain. :dead:
The big difference was that it was an Open Carry "Camp & Wilderness Trek" type Holster...and not intended for any sort of concealment.
It was a beautiful piece of custom tooled antique leather work though...and I'm sorry now that I didn't buy it...just to own it.
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Mernickle makes a few models like this if you really want one. It's a answer looking for a problem IMO.
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http://www.mernickleholsters.com/ps/ps6mr1.html
http://www.mernickleholsters.com/ps/ps6mr1.html
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I havent heard or seen "Fugly" for a while.........Roflmao
Matt........."That's especially true of anyone who has suffered arm length shrinkage due to beer consumption" Love it........ :chairshot
Shoot well...............
Matt........."That's especially true of anyone who has suffered arm length shrinkage due to beer consumption" Love it........ :chairshot
Shoot well...............
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Not me. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but when asked for an opinion, I will give an honest answer.QKShooter said:
This thing is a nightmare waiting to happen.
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Yeah....That holster is pretty doggone bad.
In case you good folks are wondering....I am constantly searching the web & Ebay for interesting holster & knife sheath photographs.
Mostly I am interested in antique & older floral tooling styles & old Western style "holster & gunbelt" combinations that feature nice "hand worked" silver trappings/hardware & buckle sets.
Every once in a while I happen upon a truly Rare Odd Gem. :biggrin:
I can HONESTLY say that the more I look at some of the stuff being made by some "artists"....all the more do I appreciate our Great Leather Holster Craftsmen here on our CombatCarry forum.
You guys Matt, Gary, & Eric are just doing some of the nicest work.
Your craftsmanship, "fit & finish" and overall attention to detail is producing some of the greatest functional & most beautiful leather work ever created.
The "Concealed Carry People" of today...never had it so good.
Your holster styles have been redesigned & refined & "Real Life Tested" & they are the height of perfection for daily & constant use.
I look at so many finely crafted old holsters that have somehow survived till 2005 & think that 100 or even 200 years from now "Folks Of The Distant Future" will still be admiring rare "Found" examples of your work. It must give you a great feeling inside. :king:
In case you good folks are wondering....I am constantly searching the web & Ebay for interesting holster & knife sheath photographs.
Mostly I am interested in antique & older floral tooling styles & old Western style "holster & gunbelt" combinations that feature nice "hand worked" silver trappings/hardware & buckle sets.
Every once in a while I happen upon a truly Rare Odd Gem. :biggrin:
I can HONESTLY say that the more I look at some of the stuff being made by some "artists"....all the more do I appreciate our Great Leather Holster Craftsmen here on our CombatCarry forum.
You guys Matt, Gary, & Eric are just doing some of the nicest work.
Your craftsmanship, "fit & finish" and overall attention to detail is producing some of the greatest functional & most beautiful leather work ever created.
The "Concealed Carry People" of today...never had it so good.
Your holster styles have been redesigned & refined & "Real Life Tested" & they are the height of perfection for daily & constant use.
I look at so many finely crafted old holsters that have somehow survived till 2005 & think that 100 or even 200 years from now "Folks Of The Distant Future" will still be admiring rare "Found" examples of your work. It must give you a great feeling inside. :king:
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Not forgetting Kevin :wink: :smile:
Thanks For The Friendly Reminder Chris!
And Not Forgetting Kevin. Whoops! Sorry!
Sorry Kevin....Let me add that right in here.
You guys Matt, Gary, Eric, & Kevin............ :smile:
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