Google around. There seem to be some places in NY you can do the qualification.

Unless you meet the rules of HR218, you aren't covered by it. So there are a dozen or so states you won't be able to carry in with your other state issued permits.

 

Not sure if will help, but this website list some places you could check.

HR 218 certification list.... in THEE RANT Forum

 

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archer51, way to stay abreast of things.

NY sucks in all things common sense.

 

My father, ret NYPD 41st relied on option 2. He never had a problem. These days though, I'm not sure I'd chance it.

 

What really ticks me off is that after 30+ plus years of wearig a badge, I have to go out and PAY for a service that I am entitled to. Probabably every other state takes care of its retired guys. Not NYS.

 

Really sucks being a plain 'ole CIVILIAN don't it?????

Just a guess but were you the kind of cop that would bust a hard working guy with a family for having a little protection under the seat of his truck as he went to work and back through a city where you couldn't protect him???? Ya, it's the law.

 

I simply can't believe that after 30+ years of carrying a gun you aren't tried of it by now. Don't you know about the evil they represent? I mean, you may not have been on the job in the apple. But, surely you see that arms in the hands of citizens (which is what you are now) is a dangerous folly. Go fishin' or golfin' and leave the cops to do their jobs... just like you did yours.

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I think it's a shame that your own state makes it hard for you to get LEOSA coverage

 

I'd like to be the first to invite you to come on down to South Carolina...We appreciate your service in blue and welcome you to the ranks of those that are "authorized" to carry in the Palmetto State...:35:

 

Regardless of the state he cannot legally carry under HR218 unless he has met the firearms qualification requirements for his home state. I weighed getting the 218 coverage but with the cost of $100 plus the price of ammo, and the need to qualify yearly, I just decided to not frequent the 12 states that do not honor my regular CCW permit. :smile

 

If your former department will not qualify you, you can try and find a certified instructor who will. You do NOT have to be qualified by your former department.

If you cannot find anyone to qualify you under LEOSA, then no, you would not be covered by LEOSA.

 

Maybe it's me but I find it kind of Ironic that once you hang up the badge that you feel somehow entitled to be able to carry a gun when the regular Peons don't have a snow balls chance in hell of ever getting a permit to carry.Apparently NYC feels the same way,once you retire don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya

 

I think Chemung County NY. had a class last year. You would have to call the Chemung County Sherriff to find out for sure. Good Luck

 

Just mentioning "Blue Brotherhood" bothers me and so does the idea that if you are a retired LEO, it somehow gives you some kind of "right" to CC without, in many instances, the responsibility to requalify at some age plateau or medical condition plateau (this goes for non-LEOs, as well). Anyone, retired LEO or not, who has a CCWP and is physically unable or limited in the use of their firearm should be required to requalify or at least have the common sense to know that CC is over. Just what I need is to be somewhere and have an 80 year old or debilitated retired LEO present his firearm and start banging away in what may be a very good shoot circumstance but ends up injuring or killing others. As for "Blue Brotherhood"---I find that to be an inexcusable and outrageous comment---once you are retired you are no more and no less than anyone else and getting a pass for whatever reason is downright wrong.

 

One wonders... do you feel the same way about service men and women... I mean after they do their bit protecting our rights, and all... what thanks are due? You did it, it's over... thanks and all that... now, go get a job, would ya?

I don't like all cops... don't get me wrong... Prolly don't like all firemen either. But, those that choose to do the work, have (and/or at the very least, been willing to) sacrificed their well being for mine. I respect that. I don't like that retired LEOs can carry a gun in places and states we cannot.

But, at least they can. And enough of "serve and protect" over a career might just rub off enough on them that they actually save an innocent who would not be saved because they were not allowed to be armed when the retired LEO was.

But then, maybe this guy's just like the rest of the 47% of Americans who "feel entitled." I don't think so... he earned it.

 

mmmmm......Pass the popcorn please, this is gonna be better than watching the election coverage....:danceban:

 

Well that wont be hard. Crashing your new Ferrari is better than watching the election coverage.

 

Here's a great list of basic limitations:

You must have at least 20/40 near and far vision in each eye (tested separately). If you require glasses or contacts to meet this requirement, you must wear these at all times while carrying a firearm. You must not be color-blind and you must not have any conditions that interfere with your sight or are likely to interfere with your sight in the future.

Ears, Nose, Throat and Balance

Your hearing must be good enough to hear a person speaking in a normal conversational tone six feet behind you. You must not have any ear, nose, throat or mouth problems that are likely to interfere with speech communication or cause vertigo.


Mental Health and Substance Abuse

You must not have any mental condition that gives you hallucinations or causes "grossly bizarre" behavior. You must have no history of substance dependence or must demonstrate that you have totally abstained from using the substance in question for the past two years. Substances include nearly any potentially addictive or mind-altering chemical (including alcohol) except for tobacco and caffeine.

Seizures and Heart Disease

You must not suffer from epilepsy or any other seizure disorder which could impair your safe use of a firearm. You will be disqualified for many serious heart diseases, including (but not limited to) angina pectoris, myocardial infarction or other "coronary heart disease that has required treatment." A permanently implanted cardiac pacemaker will also disqualify you, as will a replacement valve or transplanted heart.

Diabetes and General Condition

If you have diabetes that must be controlled using insulin or similar product, you will be disqualified. In general, to become a weapons permit holder you must not have any condition which could cause you to suddenly lose consciousness, become disoriented or otherwise lose your ability to handle a firearm. These requirements are not exhaustive, and some conditions may not permanently disqualify you from carrying a weapon if you are otherwise qualified (in some cases, the examining doctor may defer judgment on a condition to a higher authority).

maybe we could add to these?

 

Permit from any other State is no good in NY.

Western NY ?? Depending on the county it should be no problem for you to apply and get a permit. ?

Just wondering.

bosco

 

I'm not going to get into the argument whether retired officers should have the right to carry where others cannot but I'm not aware of any state CCW permit that requires yearly qualification. LEOSA requires qualification by your department's regular course. For me, in N.C., it would mean a 50 round course ranging from 3 to 25 yards, both day and night. If this were the case for all CCW permits, many would not apply and many who did would not be able to qualify. If a retired LEO covered under this bill fails to requalify due to age, infirmity, etc. his permit is not renewed. Not the case with standard CCW permits anywhere in this country.

 

Welcome from a fellow western New Yorker (Chautuaqua County) - Why not just get a NYS pistol permit? The florida and utah are not recognized by our wonderful state. I used to belong to the Chautauqua County Sheriffs Department in Corrections and they still openly invite me to come to the range on Q-days. Can you do something like that? Unfortunately HR218 doesn't apply to me because I didn't retire, rather went on to medical school.

 

You don't have to "retire", you only have to separated from law enforcement after working 10 years.

 

Get certified. I worked in NYSDOCS too before becoming a PO. Remember, not all cops like CO's. So, I would not count on the blue brotherhood. And yes, sometimes there are perks to being active or retired law enforcement. It's been that way since before any of us were born and it'll be that way long after we're all taking a dirt nap. That's life, get over it.

 

Just to clear up some points:
1. I have a NYS permit, for 35 years now.
2. I would like to carry if I travel out of state.
3. I don't carry with the intent of being a vigilante. It is for my protection and that of my family.
4. The Government says that I have the right to, based on my 34 years of law enforcement experience.
5. Finally, being cheap, I don't want to pay for something that should be provided to me by Federal law.

 

A) The Government doesn't give you the right to anything. The Government says you can carry in other States "if" you meet and qualify under the standards set through LEOSA.

B) Who said it, or anything should be provided to you free, by the Government or anyone else?

Following that logic, I served in the military, I think I should have my mortgage paid by the Government, etc.

 

Check out this NYS site. Might be more NYS LEO's in the same position.

NY Firearms

I have a NYS permit for over 38 years and every few years I drop some coin for a few select non-resident permits and can go pretty much where I want.

I can't practice my previous profession (after over 30 years) because I do not want to pay for re-registration ($200) and spend 45 hours every 2 years earning CE credits. That's just how certain things work.

OMO

bosco