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Reconsidering carrying one in the chamber....

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#1 · (Edited)
I have had a ccw for a while, but only have actively carried my G19 for the past few months. With small children, I have been shyed away from carrying chambered. My daily life is fairly mundane, and sometimes my weapon is secured in my vehicle in order to prevent exposure.

This evening, my family went to church. My weapon was on my person. After the services, my family of 4 walked across the street to a poorly lit parking lot. While crossing the street, my wife and I noticed a large male, dressed in black, in the corner near our car. She made sure I noticed too. I would have been really un easy had an off duty cop (church security)in uniform/cruiser had not been parked within 20 feet of where this guy was. As we approached he spoke to me, no threatening words, but very uncomfortable. We quickly put kids in car while we moved around the lot. He walked two cars over and stood next to another church member who was sitting in his car......very odd.

The Leo finally confronted him as we left.

I'm 6'3, 225 and this guy was much larger. This made me very aware that had something occurred, securing my kids/wife, drawing, chambering would not have worked......

Just wanted to share this with others who may be carrying an empty chamber. Maybe this was God's way of telling me.
 
#167 ·
Diggy22.

Welcome to the forum.

To answer your question, yes and no, it all depends on the type of firearm I was carrying at the time.

If I was carrying a 1911 style pistol the round was chambered and the safety was on. If I was carrying a DA/SA pistol like a Beretta the round was chambered, the gun decocked and the safety was left off. I rely on the long DA first shot to prevent problems.
 
#170 ·
Thanks for the answers i am new to handguns in general and it still is new about all of the workings. I believe tht I would carry sigh the safety but with more understanding of firearms I realize that it is not necessary
 
#175 ·
HD_FLHTK. Welcome to the forum.

You did not mention what firearm you were carrying but the practice of chambering a round they lowering the hammer then recocking for use is probably not the best option. If you firearm is equipped with a manual safety it is probably better to chamber a round and engage the safety.

One of the points of folks not carrying one in the chamber is the fear of a negligent discharge. The method you described is not really a safe one. All it would take is for your thumb/finger to slip one time and allow the hammer to fall and you may end up shooting something or someone you do not intend to.
 
#177 ·
Wow. I read this whole thing. What's wrong with me?

I carry condition 1. What I would suggest, and then I'm gonna stop drop and roll, is to consider looking at platforms that will provide one in the pipe but with a measure of safety that is comfortable and suitable for your personal requirements. Thumb safety, grip safety, decocker, etc. or not. Whatever. I gotta get a life.

Stop, drop and roll.
 
#179 ·
A defensive handgun without a round chamber is the same as a millenia old defensive tool..... its called a rock
 
#181 ·
In blatantly obvious dangerous, stressful situations it should be draw, point and if necessary and i mean REALLY necessary pull the trigger.

No other distractions.

Doesn't sound like this situation rose to that level.

There is a difference between being aware and being paranoid.
 
#182 ·
Suppose you have multiple guys coming up to you and it takes a turn for the violent. You're watching all the guys, where they are, where you are, where their hands are, who's coming closer, who's trying to get behind you, can you run, should you draw, who do you shoot first. All of this in a matter of a few seconds. It seriously comes really fast.

You don't have time to worry about thinking about racking a round OR disengaging a safety. It has to be instinctual either way. So if you practice draw rack fire or draw safety fire or draw fire it doesn't matter IMO. As long as whatever you're doing you practice and it isn't an unsafe carry position like cocked and unlocked.
 
#183 ·
Since most self defense encounters happen within three to four yards, what if one hand is busy fending off an attack? You can easily disengage an external safety (although I prefer guns that don't use them) with one hand. Racking the slide under these circumstances, although I realize it can be done, becomes more difficult.

And in the CQC scenarios I've done, I would much prefer having the gun ready to fire without the need to rack the slide.

Just personal preference I guess.

If folks choose to carry without one in the chamber because they feel safer about NDs, that's fine, I'm just happy they carry. But in my opinion, and apparently in many of the schools that teach advanced concealed carry, they give up the benefit of carrying with a round in the chamber.
 
#184 ·
I carry cocked and locked with one chambered. My best friend Carrys his in his pocket, without a holster. It's a bit big for a pocket in jeans. So he carries without one chambered. I plan on showing him a better way to carry. I think when my kangaroo holster gets here if its all I hoped he will switch to that. Point is he can still draw and be ready in three seconds. We time each other. So you can be effective enough to help you if you get practice in either way.
 
#185 ·
well, not necessarily. From ccw, I have many times shown guys that I could draw and beat them to the hit, starting with my chamber empty. Since it can't fire, why worry about it being cocked and locked, hmmm? :) I carried that way for a reason. I was constantly drawing and dryfiring in my early days of ccw and IPSC competition, and I did not want to have to fight the mainspring, or get into the habit of NOT disengaging or not having my thumb properly "riding' the speed safety as I repeat fired. I can still toss up a soda can with my weak side hand, use that hand to "clear" my shirttail, draw, cycle the slide and hit the can in midair. Granted, I have to throw it very high, almost straight up, and when it is hit, it is just 1-2 ft from the muzzle, but try the same thing with your Glock or DA sometime, starting with chamber loaded, if you think it is an easy feat.