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Door alarms/metal detectors in stores?

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#1 ·
For us CC'ers, we like to stay inconspicuous. It's a horrible feeing walking into a store to hear beep beep beep look at me! Has this ever happened to you? How did you deal with this and how did the outcome turn out, positive or negative? Two separate times last week, I entered a department store and set off the door alarm due to my firearm. Fortunately for me no one batted an eye but it got me thinking, what if they did? What if it happened while I was leaving the store and they thought I stole something? What would be the best course of action to take to present them your license and de-escalate the situation before the police get called and it turns into a huge inconvenience?
 
#72 ·
I bought two pairs of work boots from on of the big online stores, once. It took me a couple weeks to figure out what was setting off the detectors. A manager at the local K-mart (which I go to a lot) asked me if I had bought any of my clothes online. Only after that did it occur to me it only did it with those work boots.
 
#75 ·
I have not read the whole thread so I just want to throw this out there. There are no department stores out there that have metal detectors on the doors, if they did, nearly everyone would set them off. Got keys? Change? Metal belt buckle? Jewelry? All the stuff you have to remove before going through the metal detector at the airport.

Those are not metal detectors at the doors of stores. They are either RF ID detectors or other specialized units designed to detect a very specific signal emitted from the anti-theft devices used by loss prevention in stores. They do not work the same as metal detectors either. So they are not being set off by your gun. They are being set off by an anti-theft device that you have somewhere in a pocket, of some other place in clothes or in a wallet. Wallets are highly shoplifted items by the way, so they hide the anti-theft device in them often. And if the cashier didn't do a good job of deactivating it with the magnet when you bought it or neglected to remove it from the jacket or whatever, it may set of the detector, and not just in the store it was bought from. Lots of stores use the same systems so they may set each others systems off.
 
#80 ·
When the alarm goes off I just yell "It's a free-for-all" and run.


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#82 ·
There are no retail establishments with metal detectors at the door. However, there are places of business that do have them. The bank in the image is one of them. I hope you can read the entire signage on the door, as it is as sad as it is humorous. This bank is in a bad area and was robbed often before installing this system. Since installing it, they have not been robbed once. When you enter the first set of doors, a detector scans you for a large metallic mass. Yes, Glock-like guns will set it off. If tripped, both the 1st and 2nd set of doors lock and you're not going anywhere until the clerk inside releases you. If they decide you are a friendly, they release both doors. If not, they only release the 1st door that you entered. The glass is "bullet proof" and the apparatus is quite secure; you're not going anywhere until they decide that you are.

 
#84 ·
There are no retail establishments with metal detectors at the door. However, there are places of business that do have them. The bank in the image is one of them. I hope you can read the entire signage on the door, as it is as sad as it is humorous. This bank is in a bad area and was robbed often before installing this system. Since installing it, they have not been robbed once. When you enter the first set of doors, a detector scans you for a large metallic mass. Yes, Glock-like guns will set it off. If tripped, both the 1st and 2nd set of doors lock and you're not going anywhere until the clerk inside releases you. If they decide you are a friendly, they release both doors. If not, they only release the 1st door that you entered. The glass is "bullet proof" and the apparatus is quite secure; you're not going anywhere until they decide that you are.

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For those of us that have pacemakers there is no way to do business with a bank like that.
 
#85 ·
A Cabelas I go to frequently has beeped at me quite a few times when leaving with my pistol. Even when I haven't bought anything. Each time I have told them I am carrying legally, and they seem to understand that is what caused it to go off.
 
#86 ·
Those systems at the doors don't detect guns and it can not tell the difference between you entering the store and you leaving the store. The system may have beeped but it did not beep because you were carrying a firearm.
 
#87 ·
op: are you sure you aren't getting the machines that detect those security tags confused with metal detectors? I have never heard of a metal detector in a store. Wouldn't that go off with ever person walking through with a set of keys, a shoping kart, change, or a belt.
 
#90 ·
In Kentucky you can CC carry in government buildings. The facility where I occasionally eat lunch has a metal detecter because of some other situations and any body can eat there. I just go around the detector after I show my license to carry concealed to the guard on duty and wish him or her a nice day.
 
#93 ·
Alarms

This happened to me Saturday evening at Jewel Osco.
I live in Illinois. I've carried my firearm into this store for
the last month. Saturday evening I ran in to get two items
for breakfast the next morning. On my way in and on my way
out I set off the alarm. Never happened before. Bought milk
and bacon. Checked out was in there no longer than ten minutes.
After I exited the store I purposely looked and noticed the
"No concealed carry" signage.It was not posted during my
previous weekly visits to the store. This made me wonder and
to prove it. I secured my weapon in my vehicle. Walked back
through the same door and no alarm.
 
#95 ·
This happened to me Saturday evening at Jewel Osco.
I live in Illinois. I've carried my firearm into this store for
the last month. Saturday evening I ran in to get two items
for breakfast the next morning. On my way in and on my way
out I set off the alarm. Never happened before. Bought milk
and bacon. Checked out was in there no longer than ten minutes.
After I exited the store I purposely looked and noticed the
"No concealed carry" signage.It was not posted during my
previous weekly visits to the store. This made me wonder and
to prove it. I secured my weapon in my vehicle. Walked back
through the same door and no alarm.
So it obviously detected a large amount of metal. Or it's detecting gunpowder.
Or possibly it's designed to detect a larger than normal amount of brass? I think this
could be a possibility? I mean think about it. Brass in everyday life isn't a metal that
we normally carry around. Not a lot of common everyday things are made of brass anymore.
So I'm taking my experiment a step further tonight.Same Jewel Osco. Same door. I have
some nine spent 9mm brass casings that I'm going to carry in my pocket. Check back tomorrow
for the results.
****"Remember no CCW + No Ca$h"********
They are not metal detectors!
They are not metal detectors!
They are not metal detectors!
 
#94 ·
So it obviously detected a large amount of metal. Or it's detecting gunpowder.
Or possibly it's designed to detect a larger than normal amount of brass? I think this
could be a possibility? I mean think about it. Brass in everyday life isn't a metal that
we normally carry around. Not a lot of common everyday things are made of brass anymore.
So I'm taking my experiment a step further tonight.Same Jewel Osco. Same door. I have
some nine spent 9mm brass casings that I'm going to carry in my pocket. Check back tomorrow
for the results.
****"Remember no CCW + No Ca$h"********
 
#105 ·
It's odd but the local airport recently installed the new "scanners" at their safety checkpoints. I always set these new gadgets off. It's not forgotten keys or whatnot. It's just me! Sometimes it's my ankle. Sometimes my hip, sometimes my shoulder. So, out comes the wand and the pat down. I'm not sure what these things actually scan for, but I evidently mess with them! :p

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#101 ·
Trying to get into the county courthouse a few years back, they had the metal detector cranked up to "11". Besides keys and change, I had to remove my watch, glasses, a ballpoint pen (it had a little metal spring in it), and when it kept going off, they wanded my crotch and made me fold the flap over my zipper back so they could see that it was a metal zipper.

The detector apparently wasn't set to detect anything below waist level, since I have a couple of pounds of orthopedic steel in one leg. I could probably have stuck a sawed-off shotgun down each leg of a pair of flappy homeboy pants and walked on through while they were making people open their mouths so they could see their fillings.
 
#109 ·
I have to confess, I was just at Home Depot and a guy had a forklift out on the parking lot. He left it unattended, but turned off, so I put a Sensormatic tag on it. :embarassed:

I'm so ashamed, but I just couldn't help it! :yup: