What state? Is LA Louisiana or Los Angeles??
In Colorado it is legal anywhere except city of Denver. In Colorado you can not have a round chambered in any weapon except a handgun in a vehicle. If you don't live in Denver, you might get away with peaceable journey.

 

Louisiana.

I would not have a round chambered, but would have a 30 round mag close, or in the gun. I am going to have to take a long trip to family tomorrow, and wanted to take my rifle.

 

You need to check your state(s) laws that you will travel. There aren't any federal laws at this time that would prohibit it. Some local cities have weird "Home Rule" laws that the state doesn't preempt.

 

No loaded long guns allowed in Washington state. If you have a CPL you may carry a pistol loaded, but it is supposed to be on your person.

 

Same here in Ohio.

 

i have read the LA rules. Doesn't say anything. I will have my side arm with me. So, I will probably just leave it in the trunk, and the rounds in the console/glove box.

 

is it legal in AR to keep an AR15 in the trunk of your car. Also in LA for that matter?

Sure...if its not loaded.

Does my permit allow me to keep a loaded rifle in the car?

You have a Concealed Handgun License (CHL).

In others words ,NO, your permit does not allow you to keep a loaded rifle in the car. I would not recommend keeping a loaded gun in the trunk. There are various local ordinances against it. Also, keep in mind that it is deer season. The AGFC will write you a ticket for having a loaded rifle in the vehicle as game and fish regs specifically address it.

To the best of my knowledge, you can keep a gun in the trunk unloaded without any hassles.

As for Lousiana...thats a whole different country of its own. Don't assume that what is good to go here, is good to go there because they have some pretty diversified laws there. Its best to check with them.

 

thanks, HotGuns.

After thinking about it Deer Season came into mind. That was a good point.

I know it sounded silly, but I wanted to check. I do want to take the rifle to shoot with family. After all I just built it.

And your right. LA does does seem to be another world.

 

cont'd

What I think I will do is take it down, and put it in my carbine bag in the trunk, put the mags in the console, and the ammo in the glove box.
Being TG tomorrow I doubt I will get anyone at the State Police #. I will try, but... Hey people got to be with their family too.

Thanks everyone for the direction. Keep up the good work.

 

Louisiana considers your car an extension of your home. You could keep it loaded and laying across your lap. :smile:

However, by you driving crossing state lines, that might change.....

FYI. If you get stopped in La. you must tell the police if you are carrying.

 

On trips, I keep the rifle/shotugun in trunk and the full mag/shells in close reach INSIDE the cab. Things are pretty lax here in KY, but it just doesn't make too much sense to keep a rifle in the trunk with a round chambered. Probably ok, but it just feels unsafe.

I guess the idea that your handgun is there to get you to your rifle or shotgun still stands, just like in the home. It probably feels like your safety is compromised if you have to grab a mag, pop the trunk and run for the long gun...so keep that P220 or the 1911 handy. After all, how long does it take to pop that 30-rounder in and yank the charging handle?

Safe journey!

 

In Washington it was my understanding you could keep a long gun locked in the trunk with magazine unloaded.

 

Not in my world.No loaded long guns in state of Maine unless you are the police
or military.

 

When I first clicked on this thread I tought he meant LA = Los Angeles.
I was getting ready to type..."You're Kidding Right?" :rofl:

 

I carry my ak47 loaded behind the seat. But in VA I can do that with my CCW:wink:

 

Not that I know of and here in virginia that would be a firearms violation!

 

In Virginia
According to 18.2-287.4 The prohibition does not apply to:
1. Leo's
2. Anyone engaged in lawful hunting
3. Recreational shooting at ranges or events
4. CCW HOLDERS


§ 18.2-287.4. Carrying loaded firearms in public areas prohibited; penalty.
§ 18.2-308. Personal protection; carrying concealed weapons; when lawful to carry.

 

Not in Michigan

 

Here's a tip: In MI, any firearm that is 30" OAL or less is considered a pistol and must be "safety inspected". It is now a pistol according to the statutes. So now it is legal to have loaded in your vehicle as long as you have a CPL.

I got a Mini-14 folder that measures exactly 30", registered as a pistol. I keep it in my truck with a loaded mag and empty chamber.

 

i dunno, with today's news and media and having a "sniper" shoot people with a ar15 from the trunk of a car, plus since I'm not aware of any reasonable method to CCW a ar15 I'd think a loaded ar15 outside of your house, away from a gunrange or on the hunting field might be asking for trouble my friend

 

I thought that most PDs prohibited a chambered round in all firearms except pistol when in a moving vehicle on normal business (not in the middle of a man-hunt) due to safety. A shotgun or centerfire rifle I don't believe rotate the firing pin away from the round.

 

RE:

Yep you gotta love Virginia! If you dont have your concealed carry permit you might as well leave em unloaded, or avoid public places during non hunting seasons during the day....

Otherwise, you're spot lighting
You're violating § 18.2-287.4.
You're hutning out of season

I poke one of my friends who hasnt got his permit with this provision, Oh yeah I actually can have that loaded.... his reply is usally a grrr followed by a speech from me on making a trip to the courthouse.

 

keep it loaded where ever you want in your vehicle/house while you're in louisiana ... just make sure you tell the po-po if you get yanked :wink:

 

Anybody know about having an AK in vehicle in FL? W/ccw?

 

Short answer: don't do it.

Concealed weapon in FL means far more than handgun, but doesn't include long guns, so whether or not you are licensed to carry concealed has no effect on having an AK in a vehicle.

So many other laws apply that I would say, don't drive around FL with a rifle or shotgun.

In general, you may put a long gun in your vehicle only for transit: to and from a place where your long gun is legal to use (or repair).

I hunt squirrels, so I know it can get weird: you can [if licensed] carry a concealed weapon into a recreational use area almost anytime of year, but be arrested if you [instead or also] have a long gun in that same area without a special permit for that area, and it's not the correct type and caliber for the current hunting season. If the wrong weapon, you committed a minor game violation; if out of season altogether for that area, you have committed felony armed trespass! And that's despite having a carry license and without any rifle ammo. There are certain roads in the forests that are always okay for long guns, and other roads which vary depending on the hunting season.

You can buy a rifle from Wal-Mart and take it to your vehicle and drive it home. You cannot stop in the parking lot of that very same Wal-Mart with the same rifle in your vehicle to buy ammo on your way to the shooting range. But you can (if licensed) visit Wally World for nachos anytime with a pistol, a knife, OC, a sap, and a short list of other self-defense weapons discretely weighing you down.

In short, the right to carry in FL expects you to use only something necessary to stop an immediate threat. Since rifles are considered long range (anyone that far away is not immediate), you shouldn't carry rifles (loaded or not) on your person or in your vehicle unless going to a gunsmith, target range, or hunting area. Shotguns are also considered hunting weapons, not self-defense weapons.

YMMV, I'm a squirrel hunter, not a lawyer, and did not stay in a HIE last night.

 

I'm[/B] a squirrel hunter, not a lawyer, and did not stay in a HIE last night.

:rofl:

Squirrel is a popular hunt here in the fall. Perhaps you could start another thread for recipies, as I've only had it fried and...well...it tastes like fried anything else.

Kinda' feels funny, eating squirrel, to be honest...:image035:

 

And in Texas?

Since we're on the subject.
Anybody familiar with the laws concerning carrying a rifle or shotgun in your car/trunk in Texas? It's got to be different than Florida, you'd think.

 

Since we're on the subject.
Anybody familiar with the laws concerning carrying a rifle or shotgun in your car/trunk in Texas? It's got to be different than Florida, you'd think.

As far as I know, Texas law contains no prohibition on the transport of loaded rifles and shotguns in vehicles. Such firearms may be carried in plain view anywhere in the vehicle or secured in a commercial gun case or gun rack. The following is the closest reference I could find for it:

III. UNLAWFULLY CARRYING A WEAPON (“UCW”) – SECTION 46.02

Section 46.02 provides that a person commits an offense where he intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his person a handgun. UCW applies only to handguns. The proscription, of course, does not apply to rifles or shotguns. If the law were otherwise “gun racks in hundreds of motor vehicles that now proudly display at least one rifle or shotgun would become as bare as the proverbial cupboard.” Christian v. State, 592 S.W.2d 625, 628 n.8 (Tex. Crim. App. 1980). Indeed, Texas law allows most people to carry rifles or shotguns in concealed fashion or in plain view. (Source: TEXAS FIREARMS LAW PRIMER 2003)

But I also know it is illegal to carry a loaded long gun in a vehicle within the San Antonio city limits :

Sec. 21-16. Carrying loaded rifle or shotgun.

It shall be unlawful for any person, other than duly authorized peace officers, to carry a loaded rifle or shotgun on any public street within the city or in a motor vehicle while the same is being operated on any public street within the city. (Code 1959, § 26-28)

Cross references: Regulation of firearms and weapons, § 21-151 et seq.

Of course the above is free Internet info, it is best that you check your local laws and/or with your local police before doing anything...

Cheers! M2

 

Wow, all them laws make my head hurt. Here it's really simple. You can carry a loaded gun of any type in your vehicle. you do not need a CCL to do so. CCL is only if carrying on your person. Gun can be either in open or concealed in vehicle and most LEO's I've spoken with prefer concealed. Most LEO's here also would like the help of an armed citizen if they are in a bind and you happen along, because their nearest LEO backup could be a long way away.

 

Along these lines, I recently picked up a bit of good advice from Personal Defense TV. When and if you are pulled over by a LEO, and you are legally in the cc mode, simply hand over your cc license along with your driver's license. This avoids mentioning outloud the word "gun" or "armed". This allows the LEO to calmly decide what questions to ask you, if any.

 

The issue of notifiying law enforcement personnel of your possession of concealed handguns is a matter BEST NOT left to TV gun show generalities.

Following such show's advice here in Ohio will land you arrested for a felony.

I don't know how close you live to the Ohio state line or if you travel here frequently, but in case you do, our law requires you to notify an LEO of the fact that you are carrying a concealed handgun as soon as possible upon official contact. That means that should be the first thing out of your mouth to him. You must verbally declare that you are carrying a concealed handgun. What words to use is up to you. I merely state that "I am required to inform you that I am carrying a legally concealed handgun". The response has always been "where is it now?". I tell them. Then the conversation has always moved to the reasons for the traffic stop. The mention of the word handgun did nothing to escalate the situation.

You are not required to automatically show your handgun license. Produce it upon request only. Some cops have asked me for it, some have not. You do not have to declare that you have a concealed handgun license and that you are not armed. Some think that's a good idea. I do not. Some say that since Ohio CHLs are tied to driver licenses, the cop will know you have one when they run their CHL. OK, so they do. If they ask why I didn't say anything, I will say because I am not armed and the law only requires that I notify if I am armed. Where it goes from there, is their call. I know I am on legal solid ground, backed up by the Ohio Revised Code and by Ohio AG legal opinion.

I generally am of the opinion that the less you say during an encounter with police when you are the object of their interest, the better. Be professional, be courteous, be responsive, follow the law regarding what you must say, but volunteer nothing. The last thing we need are CHL holders creating precedent in officers' minds by notifying when we don't have to and making life more difficult for those of us who follow the law strictly.

 

"I don't know how close you live to the Ohio state line or if you travel here frequently, but in case you do, our law requires you to notify an LEO of the fact that you are carrying a concealed handgun as soon as possible upon official contact. That means that should be the first thing out of your mouth to him. You must verbally declare that you are carrying a concealed handgun. What words to use is up to you. I merely state that "I am required to inform you that I am carrying a legally concealed handgun". The response has always been "where is it now?". I tell them. Then the conversation has always moved to the reasons for the traffic stop. The mention of the word handgun did nothing to escalate the situation."

Since I do frequent the Ohio roads, I will take your advice very seriously. In fact, I can see the Ohio river from my front porch. My thoughts were rather how to get the concealment fact across without using what might seem to some LEO's as dangerous words. Your suggested statement is a good one, since it begins with "I am required by law..."

 

Since I do frequent the Ohio roads, I will take your advice very seriously.

You might want to read the Ohio Revised Code sections regarding concealed carry. Handgunlaw.us has links to the relevant sections.