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If I'm getting loading into a meat wagon for emergency reasons, my firearm is the least of my immediate concerns.
This made me chuckle. Of course you're right! Just thought I'd throw out a scenario. Better to think of it now and be prepared than wake up in the hospital wondering where to go to find it. Hmmm...perhaps our local ambulance needs a gun safety course! (I just got my instructor cert :smile:)

Thanks for all the input. I know several local law men and don't think it'd be hard to get it back. Just wondering what the first responders would do. The thought of an idiot taking my gun off me when i have no say scares me. (Not to start another thread)
 
Don’t let the cops take it, you will have a hard time getting it back. There have been posts on this site and others of cops securing a firearm and the owner having to do though knot holes to get it back
You might not have a lot of choice. I had an accident while armed (when am I *not* armed?) in January. I was pretty messed up and my foot was in great pain. Often (and in this case) when I drive I tuck my cover shirt behind my gun/holster at 1 o'clock so it is very easy to draw while seat-belted in place. So, when I got out of my (totalled) vehicle my gun was visible. Thus the EMT folks contacted the police, who came and asked for my gun license and took the gun/holster combo while I was being loaded in the ambulance. I had called my (22 year old) daughter when the accident happened -- I was hoping she could take me home so I wouldn't have to pay megabucks for the ambulance ride. Didn't work, the EMTs were concerned that I was in shock and needed to be transported. At any rate, the police unloaded my gun and gave it all to my daughter to take home. I have always had good experiences with Oklahoma police on guns and CCW and this was no exception.
 
My department has a policy for handling of persons with firearms. If the person is unconscous or unresponsive the weapon is turned over to a Command Officer on the scene who clears the weapon and alerts the responding P.D. and turns the weapon over to the P.O. on the scene. The P.D. logs it in to their weapons locker. Stays there until arrangements are made for the owner to pick it up.
 
Hmmm...perhaps our local ambulance needs a gun safety course! (I just got my instructor cert :smile:)
Most ambulances have a small lock box built into the truck for securing the narcotics....this could be used.

Also, for just starting out in his medical career limatunes sure is making a lot of sense and making some very good points. I have agreed with most of his comments thus far.
You'll probably do just fine in EMS sir and we're glad to have you!
 
I was in this situation a couple of times when I was in EMS. Both were LEOs and unresponsive. The officers on scene quickly removed the firearms and we went on our way to the ER. Good outcomes in both instances, so I'm sure the weapons were cared for and returned to them. I don't think the officers would have acted differently for anyone CCing.
 
In my area the Police are ALWAYS on the scene to back-up and assist the Paramedics and to do traffic control etc.
If you were a legal gun owner and were carrying a firearm in my area it's sure bet that a LEO would take control of the firearm and it's also a sure bet that it would be promptly returned to you as soon as you were able to to take possession of it.


Hey............Kudos lima!
:yup:
 
things that make you go huuuhh, I would certainly hope that LEO would take control of my gun...My wife hates guns, and would feel uncomfortable handeling any weapon (try to teach her and take her to the range, she's not ready, had hot brass go where hot brass isn't intended) LEO know how to handle the weapon and I'm sure would take good care of it...
 
I've had a few armed patients, but only one was unconscious; my partner found a (very nice) custom Kimber .45 in the gents waistband and got kind of wide-eyed. I removed it from the waistband, cleared it and put it on the back of the stretcher while he called for LE. When they arrived a minute later, they took custody of it, ran it through NCIC (clear all the way) and told us he could retrieve it the next day from the LE Center. I ran into the fellow a few weeks later and he told me all he had to do was show his DL and CWP to get it back. He did thank me for taking care of it for him, which was nice. I've seen a few at MVC's with conscious patients; we normally let the sheriff or PD get it from the patient and stick to doing our EMS thing. If it's a long gun we just leave it alone until the cops arrive.
 
Just to add, if the gun makes it to the hospital undiscovered such as in a smart carry the hospital staff will have procedures that range from securing the weapon with their security people to turning it over to local PD. In both cases you should have no problem getting it back as long as everything checks out.
 
Just to add, if the gun makes it to the hospital undiscovered such as in a smart carry the hospital staff will have procedures that range from securing the weapon with their security people to turning it over to local PD. In both cases you should have no problem getting it back as long as everything checks out.
If it gets to the hospital undetected then somebody on the ambulance didn't do their job in assessing the full body of the pt.
 
I have seen people come in after a heart attack or severe head trauma where the paramedic is doing all they can to get the person to the ER. I would excuse them for missing a gun in a Smart Carry.
 
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