Announced that Isreal and hammas have agreed to the first phase.
Hostages to be released.
I will believe it when I see it.
Hostages to be released.
I will believe it when I see it.
Is the Gaza war finally over?
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Appreciated and huge thanks to POTUS TRUMP'S administration
We are still waiting (for now) for Hamas-Da'aesh to return ALL the deceased hostages
So far 4 / 28 !!!
Clear violation of the hostage exchange deal
On the plus side, even easier now for the IDF to take out Hamas-Da'aesh.
You can't kill what's already dead.
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Exactly, that was why Jesus came to earth, that was his fate, to die for our sins. Also if you hate Jews then you would hate Jesus, Mary and Joseph and most of the Apostles. There were no Christians until at least a hundred years after Jesus was crucified.
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Jews didn't kill Christ, the Romans did.
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I was referring to a commonly-held view, not a universal one. Intellectually, we all know that Jews didn't kill Jesus. That said, there are many who have been taught that the Jews were responsible, even if they didn't drive the nails.
FWIW, that is exactly what I was taught as a young child.
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Which view were you taught? The Romans killed Christ or the Jews? Not sure which you meant.
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The Romans were the instruments with which the Jews killed him.
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Wow! No wonder there has been no peace in the middle east.
People can't even agree on who killed Jesus.
People can't even agree on who killed Jesus.
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There is probably a bit more to it than that.
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Technically, I think it's accurate to say the Jews used the Romans as the instruments to kill Jesus. However, it mispresents the substance of what happened. There were specific people who happened to be Jewish whose actions directly led to Jesus being killed. Similarly, we could say Americans tried to assassinate Trump and did assassinate Charlie Kirk. Technically true, but it doesn't accurately portray the substance of what occurred.
Misleading people through distorting facts is an effective tool to manipulate the public. It worked in ancient Israel and Rome, and still works today.
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So true. It's very complicated because it mixed politics, religion, culture and an enormous power struggle.There is no quick and easy answer and anyone stating that the Jews killed Christ is boiling it down to the most elementary element.
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The difference between your example and the killing of Jesus is that the Roman government of Judea is who carried out the execution and the Jewish leadership, virtually powerless as it was, pushed for that execution. Pontius Pilate, as the Roman Governor, had no particular reason to kill Jesus but the only authority to do so (only the Romans could dole executions and regardless his was done in the Roman rather than Jewish manner). However, as a problem for the Jewish religious leadership (who know how much support they had, but they represented the whole populace) and given the general political and social instability in Judea at the time, Pilate placated the Jewish community by executing Jesus.
As far as I know, both the would be assign of Trump and Kirk's assign held no power in any government and acted completely outside the law where as Jesus was killed by the state.
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True. Please feel free to provide a closer aligned example. What I wrote was merely stream of consciousness at the moment, but gets the general point across.
Hamas is apparently now coming out of their "holes" and reasserting on the streets. "Policing" the place, attacking competing "gangs" (clans) who Hamas sees as rivals. Publicly executing those who they claim are "collaborators" and those who don't immediately bow down to Hamas's "authority".
Could see all of this as the greatest likelihood from a mile off.
Full erasure of Hamas is going to be hard. And with some of their tunnel systems apparently a couple hundred feet underground (and more), who knows how long it could take to fully remove and seal-up all of them.
Could see all of this as the greatest likelihood from a mile off.
Full erasure of Hamas is going to be hard. And with some of their tunnel systems apparently a couple hundred feet underground (and more), who knows how long it could take to fully remove and seal-up all of them.
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I heard report that hamas still has refused to disarm which is one of the main terms with Israel.
This is going to blow up. IDF will be back into Gaza within a few weeks. Only way this conflict ends id the extermination with all the terror groups in Gaza.
Then something else will blow up in another country there. I like Trump but his peace for the first time in two thousand years is right up there with Bush's Mission Accomplished banner.
This is going to blow up. IDF will be back into Gaza within a few weeks. Only way this conflict ends id the extermination with all the terror groups in Gaza.
Then something else will blow up in another country there. I like Trump but his peace for the first time in two thousand years is right up there with Bush's Mission Accomplished banner.
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Sabra ??
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Sounds like Aza needs to have its own civil war in order to get the details all worked out.
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Israeli measured support for the rival "Khamulot" needs to continue.
They are also behind the "yellow" boundary where the IDF holds, for now.....
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Definitely time for a regime change in Aza. How many clans are strong enough to defeat Hamas?
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Based upon previous knowledge, there were six main "Khamulot" prior to the war that had the manpower and finance to present a challenge to Hamas-Da'aesh.
However, present day it's a guesstimate that four operational within the demarcation zone that IDF holds.
The largest being in the south, an estimated 15,000 militia.
One thing to remember, they all supported Hamas-Da'aesh prior to March 2025, only when Israel intensified military operations did they poke their heads above ground to challenge the status quo.
This is how Arab states were prior to the west decreeing them as countries and ONE governing "Khamula".
It kind of reminds me now of what's happening in Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan.
However, present day it's a guesstimate that four operational within the demarcation zone that IDF holds.
The largest being in the south, an estimated 15,000 militia.
One thing to remember, they all supported Hamas-Da'aesh prior to March 2025, only when Israel intensified military operations did they poke their heads above ground to challenge the status quo.
This is how Arab states were prior to the west decreeing them as countries and ONE governing "Khamula".
It kind of reminds me now of what's happening in Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan.
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