I'm not a mall ninja either but I think the RMR is a good idea. I've never tried one but they're very small and reputed to be reliable. There doesn't seem to be a down side since you can still use the sights (or point shoot if need be).

 

Mall ninja stuff aside. If you can shoot an RMR more accurately and faster than a traditional sight setup, go for it. Just make sure you can draw it quickly without catching the RMR up on somehting.

If it were up to me and I wanted an RMR (I kind of do, but on my HD pistol), I would get the one with the highest reputation for reliability, something like a Trijicon Dual-Illuminated RMR.

 

I was actually looking at the trijicon rm02,6.5 moa. I checked out the dual illumination one but in low light it seemed pretty dim,not to mention tritium only last so long. As for battery only one I would change battery at least once a year,battery life is stated at almost 2 yrs.
I really like the adj (rm07) but with my holster I am worried about the adj buttons getting hit.

 

You would think that the RMR dots could automatically adjust to brightness like your smartphone screen does.

I worry about the glass fogging when going from indoors to out in the winter. There is always the AmeriGlo Ghost Ring Night Sights to consider

 

You would think that the RMR dots could automatically adjust to brightness like your smartphone screen does

The RMR02 does change the intensity of the dot automatically. The dual illuminated one with a tritium dot can't in the dark, the tritium is what it is, though in bright light the fiber optic increases the brightness.

I've been running an 8MOA RMR02 on my FNP45 Tactical for almost three years, carried it on duty for more than two. I think they work great and are well worth the investment, especially if you wear bi or trifocals. It sounds like the OP has done his research, not much I can add other than I haven't had a single issue with my RMR, or the gun for that matter. The Trijicon RMRs are rugged, hold a zero, and have very good battery life, though I change them annually in all my sights when I do the smoke detectors. Cheap insurance. Also, I have found the 8MOA dot to be a good compromise between speed of acquisition and precision, I don't think I'd go any smaller on a self defense gun.

Bowie is a fan of the Leupold DeltaPoint. I've never used one but I have heen considering having him cut a Commander slide for me and trying it out, the Trijicons are too wide for 1911s.

ETA: I use antifog stuff on my RMR, never had any issues with fogging, even in the winter getting in and out of the cruiser all day.

 

This guy is who I talk to about all things reflexive-sight related: Bowie Tactical Concepts Home Page

 

I've never used a rmr before but I do have an honest question. Would something like that make your gun a lot harder to conceal?

 

I have the same question

 

I have been looking also the guys I have talk to said its no hard to conceal than normal.

 

I have been considering something like this as I get older and my eyes aren't the same anymore. Depending on the gun/holster and how you carry seems like it will still conceal pretty good.

I found this here: TSD COMBAT SYSTEMS HOLSTER - THE CUBAN after reading an article from The Suarez Group and considering AIWB carry.

 

I have been considering something like this as I get older and my eyes aren't the same anymore. Depending on the gun/holster and how you carry seems like it will still conceal pretty good.

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I found this here: TSD COMBAT SYSTEMS HOLSTER - THE CUBAN after reading an article from The Suarez Group and considering AIWB carry.

If you do get that holster... I'd like your review of it

 

I dont care for them at all, but a whole lot of gun world guys that I have a lot of respect for love 'em. I think it boils down to shooting style, ability or maybe visual limitations. I do think they are far more useful and practical over a laser.

 

I've got the Trijicon on my shotgun and a Fastfire III on my RIA 22TCM. I really like it on my shotgun because when the weapon is shouldered the red dot is right there. The pistol took a little practice to bring up and have the red dot right there. Using high iron sights designed to co-witness I'm sure could help with the eye/sight window alignment.

 

I use Holographic sights on my long guns since I am right handed and left eye dominant. For handguns I can hold the sights under my left eye easily. Having spent a few years competitively shooting, red dots are great aids. There are some drawbacks though. For competition the red dots were placed on a mount attached to the frame, not slide. The problem with a red dot on a slide is that it can be more time consuming and difficult to reacquire after a shot since the sight is moving back and forward. There are also issues of bright light washing them out, batteries failing and all the things I am sure you are aware of.

I would put a red dot on a range gun plan to do so when my eyes get a little bit older. My problem with them on a defensive gun are that they take longer to acquire than fixed sights. You have to be looking at them almost dead on. Then there is the problem of suddenly needing your gun and the sight is turned off. On a Glock you may not be able to use your iron sights and I know from experience that you really need to have iron sights as a backup. There is also the greater chance of snagging. For me the deal breaker is the inability to quickly draw or grab my gun and acquire the target as fast as I can with iron sights.

I am a fan of red dots, just not for defensive guns. I hope that I at least gave you some things to think about. I have used them on rifles and competition pistols where they are great but not a fan of putting them on slides or on defensive guns. I rather go with a laser with fiber optic/tritium combo sights. Heck, my main carry .45 does not even have traditional sights. Just a trench to allow a very quick sight picture which is all I need since I point shoot at 15 yards and below distances.

 

I've got them on my M&P's and they work fine and concealment is no problem. I had to work a bit on my draw stroke to get the sights to come up to where I could see the dot every time, but I don't find it any slower. Accuracy is the key with them, it's just easier, especially at longer ranges. That said, a stigmatism can do funny things to the dot and suppressor sights are a must as a back up.

 

I have a J-Point on one of my G-19's. Really nice and varies the dot brightness based on outside light level. I also change the battery on Jan 1 each year (had it 3 years). Also did not have to mill the slide as their kit slid right into the rear sight dovetail and keeps zero when battery is changed.

 

The dovetail mounts are an easy solution but they take away your ability to have suppressor sights installed. I've found the dot is much harder to find without sights to reference, it takes much longer to work out a draw and presentation that allows you to see the dot immediately.

 

My friend has an rmr on his FNX it's pretty awesome, very easy to shoot.

like this one

 

Do to hand surgery I have been cc'n my wifes soft shooter m&p core with a rmo5g on it. Works well with the green dot in bright or low light then has a trijicon insert in it for night use.
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carried here- http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/...dluk1/triptothezoojuly2014andgun094_zps47c76d7e.jpg?1414100817084&1414100819790

 

very sexy:image035:

 

I agree. That's a sharp setup.

 

Uhmm , Never thought about a handgun being sexy. Maybe because its my wifes pistol it rubbed off !

 

I bought the TSD Red Dot Package for my Glock 19. Sight is RM07, 6.5 min. Dot. Had it for several months and love it. True game changer for 65-year old eyes. Pistol's concealment is not impaired at all, and the sight is so rugged I use it as a shelf to retract the slide. Start aligning the iron sights to locate the dot, then go to the dot. Like any new tool, there is a learning curve, but it is well worth the trouble.
Bought a Glock 26 last week and sent it to TSD for the same package.
Since I shoot mostly Bullseye Pistol Competition, I use Red Dot Sights (UltraDot) in 95% of my practice. Happy to have the Dot on my carry guns!

 

I saw go for it. I have been considering getting one for my 4th Gen Glock 23. God Bless :smile:

 

Whats an rmr?

 

reflex sight.

 

I have an RM05 on my carry G19. I love it. My buddy makes holsters and made mine. It is an absolute MUST to have co witnessed suppressor height back up sights though

 

The green dot is very different from the amber at have a visible light in low light and dark to light conditions. Maybe the larger 0\9" dor helps too but it also doe not glow the same in brite day light to may. maybe my eyes .

Hey SECERT Whats an RMR (Ruggedized Miniature Reflex) A Trijicon name .
https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product1.php?id=RMR

 

Question - Does anyone make a quick-release mount for RMR-equipped pistols? I ask because one of my concerns with this setup has always been that if the RMR gets obscured by mud, dirt, blood, etc you not only lose the use of the RMR, but also the BUIS.

A quick-release mount would resolve that issue rather nicely.

 

If I needed to remove it that quickly, because the lens is obscured by mud, dirt or blood, I'm sure I could come up with a quick "release" real fast that would clear the lens.

 

Pulling a lever or pushing a button and removing the sight is way faster than cleaning the lens.