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road rage in front of you

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#1 ·
OK, there have been several post about the fact that it's a good idea to leave room in front of your car to make an exit in case something happens in front of you.
I was thinking about this as I was driving home. I stopped at a light and left a ca length between my car and the car in front of me. The road I'm on is two lanes each way, plus a left turn lane, and at this light there is also a right turn lane. I'm in the right hand straight lane, right turn lane to my right is empty, another straight lane on my left with car in front of me and on my left.

Here's the scenario. The two drivers in the cars in front of me, both in the straight thru lanes get in an argument. All of a sudden they pull guns and start shooting. I can't back up because there is a car on my rear bumper.

Do you sit tight, duck down behind the wheel, or do you try to drive into the right turn lane and around the car in front of you?
There's a good chance stray bullets passing thru the car or thru the open windows of the car you drive around are going to hit you.

So do you just stay put and hope all the shots go left/right, and none go back towards you?
 
#2 ·
Kind of a strange one, they both have guns, start shooting at each other at the same time, sounds like gang members or a drug scene to me not road rage..., get out of the car and get as far back as possible using your vehicle as a shield, if you pass you are a target, if you stay put you can get hit by a stray, so get out of dodge and let the insurance figure out the damages....
 
#3 ·
Couple of scenarios

1) Make immediate right, drive through right turn lane, over curb and through the parking lot of the gas station/drug store/convenience store on the corner, call 911 as soon as enough distance between you and aggressors.

2) Stay where you are, hunker down behind wheel, call 911 immediately, draw weapon and be aware of position of assailants, proceed into right lane and pass other vehicles after gun fire has ceased. You want to keep the front of your vehicle towards the gunfight, because your front end parts (bumper, radiator, air conditioner, engine) will offer much more protection than your driver side door panels.

Just my opinion.
 
#34 ·
Sounds like they are more worried about shooting each other than you. high pockets option 2 seems to be the best course of action. Although I would draw my gun first and have it at the ready before dialing 911.

2) Stay where you are, hunker down behind wheel, call 911 immediately, draw weapon and be aware of position of assailants, proceed into right lane and pass other vehicles after gun fire has ceased. You want to keep the front of your vehicle towards the gunfight, because your front end parts (bumper, radiator, air conditioner, engine) will offer much more protection than your driver side door panels.

Just my opinion.
 
#4 ·
Crank the wheel hard right and nail the gas. Get the hell out of Dodge and take your chances that you might catch a stray bullet. At this point, you're just trying to minimize your chances of injury. There are no guarantees in life. You just make the best decisions that you can and hope God agrees with your choices.
 
#5 ·
Shoot 'em both and go home so I'm not late picking my kids up from daycare, that gets expensive!

Honestly, I'd probably open the back of my car (liftgate), then crawl back there and exit... then run as far back as traffic allows, while on the phone to 911. Then wait for things to clear out. If they are shooting at each other they are not paying any attention to me.
 
#6 ·
Stay put till they are both dead, then have a party. 2 less idiots on the road. :smile:

I would wait until the shooting stopped, then do the hard right and get outta there. Call 911 when i'm safe.
 
#7 ·
open my drivers door enough to crawl out and to the rear of my car. the door is not going to stop bullets but it may hide my motions.
in fact id open the passengers door 1st as a visual diversion and than my door and exit.
of course as fast as it starts it is likely to be over as i doubt either of them have re-loads and even a glock runs out of ammo by the time the light changes.

or

i may ram one of them if my vehicle is larger to create a diversion, back up and hit em again with horn blearing ( todays go beep beep but...)and than do the crawl.

and than i would plan a different route for the future.

the crawl will work cause the dude on the right can not see you on the ground and the dude in front of you would have to contort himself --and in doing so present the back of his head to the otherBG--to see you. it is to do; save playing bumper sars for the movies, crawl low and live longer. besides--ramming would move the car in front up and you in to line with the othe rBG's line of fire....not a good idea.
 
#9 ·
My wife is usually in the passenger seat, so escaping out the doors is a no-go. Honey, hit the floor, & I'm in reverse & moving as fast as my Flintstone feet will allow! I would put my firearm at the ready in case things get dicey.

I always leave that space in front of me.
 
#10 ·
I do try to leave space from the car in front of me. I like to see the back tires of that car.
If shooting started between two other cars, I'm driving over curbs or anything else in the way to get outta' there.:yup:
 
#12 ·
The only things I'm going to be witnessing are the trees and telephone poles flying by as I depart.:popout2::hand54::fahrzeug019:
 
#13 ·
If you get down, dont you have the engine block in front of you? Esp since they're not even shooting at you.

This is about the time I get down, rip my rearview mirror off the windshield, hold it up, and watch what's happening. Hopefully my gun is accessible and is in my hand, ready if they come for me...which I dont see why they would....their issues are with each other. Hopefully they disable each other.
 
#15 ·
Good scenario Ted and to be honest, the person who said his wife would have to be factored in had a good point.

How many of us would be alone...or likely with family, friends, etc? Plans have to include them too.
 
#18 ·
Shift to reverse, turn wheel hard right, drive in reverse the wrong way down the right-turn lane until a safe distance, then park and call police with at least one license plate number (hope I didn't forget to get at least a partial description).
 
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#19 ·
I have to agree the way to move is back, the car behind you is on your bumper so that car will need to be moved to make room to leave the area. As to backing down the right-turn lane or crossing the curb would depend on who and what was there. Stay in the car and move it, but not towards the gun fire.

My 2 cents
 
#21 ·
Get out of your car, exposing your CCW badge hanging around your neck. Demand they stop shooting, and inform them both that they are under citizens arrest. Cuff them and transport them in the back seat of your Crown Vic to the nearest police station. Problem solved.

Ok, really I would floor it and get the hell out of dodge as fast as possible. Any way possible.
 
#24 ·
I'd get as low as I could get and hope it was over in the average number of shots in civilian encounters: two/three.

Another good reason to keep space behind car ahead when stopped at light - or stopped anywhere: rear end hit. You avoid slamming into the car in front of you if hit from the rear, which is a double chance of injury for you, and passes on another possible one to the driver in front. Especially at thruway toll booths. Been a few horrible accidents caused by truck who could or didn't stop, rear ends the last car in line with tremendous force which keeps going thru the line of cars - many of them crushed between the rear and front hit.
 
#26 ·
Either stay hunkered down behind the engine in the car, or get the hell out of the metal coffin (your car).

Do not engage either of them unless in direct self defense. It is not your fight, don't make it your fight, you don't want none of it and you don't care...
 
#27 ·
change the scenario---add a passenger--and it likely makes for a different answer,
but he asked in regards to his traveling alone, so was the answer given.
if we start changing scenarios after the OP has posted, than original answerer start to become out of context for later readers.
answer the original question as phrased or start a new scenario.
this happened with the garage/ elevator when limatunes introduced how she might react if the conditions were different.
the thread went sideways for awhile. it gets confusing when adding to a what-if, another what-if.
 
#31 ·
The scenarios are also meant to be instructive. It's not much help to a person who normally has kids with them in the car to not even be able to consider or get advice on that point. Unless these scenarios are all meant to be macho shoot 'em up fantasies. The reality is most of us do often have others with us. (Take the mall scenario for example...most people said...if it's just me, one thing, if my family is with me, another....and often they were not the same reactions)

If you have a kid in a child seat, hunkering down OR exiting the car arent even options for you. Adding other passengers isnt really taking the the scenario much out of context...esp since so far all the answers are pretty much the same 3 answers.

Of course if that occurs to someone (what if my kids are in the car?) they could also post their own scenario.
 
#29 ·
I'm not sure I'd hunker down in the car unless I could get completely on the floorboard which, w/my fat a$$, would be impossible. The engine block sits much lower than the dash and a ricochet would go through the hood and dash like it was warm butter. I think the better option would be to pick your moment and get directly behind the car completely (assuming you are perpendicular to the action).

I'd say the best bet would be to (single occupant) go as far left-forward as possible, with the objective being to put as much of your rear bumper as possible as close to the front-left wheel of the car behind you as possible. From what I've seen and read, the best way to move a stationary car with a moving car is to hit it at the wheels. Going left would give you more cover than going right, which would expose your driver-side door....hmmm...I was going to say go right if you had a passenger to cover but if you get shot, who's driving? I love these questions, they really do help you prepare.