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If you were in the described situation, which gun would you choose?

Ruger LCR vs. S&W 642

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#1 ·
Okay, so I'm making huge progress with my fiancee.

She's now decided that she wants to buy her own gun and start carrying. I'm very pleased with the decision that she's made, and am looking to support her by buying her first carry for her.

She's narrowed her choices down to the Ruger LCR or the S&W 642. We've come a long way to get here. She's comfortable shooting .38SPL and .38+P, so we're good there.

Now some specifics:
  • The price difference is not a factor for me, with the LCR base sale price at $395 and the 642 at $439.
  • She has fired the 642 (my Uncle's he purchased last year) and shot well and was very comfortable.
  • She has not fired the LCR, but much prefers the Hogue grips on the LCR to the standard grips on the 642. Of course, I did tell her we can always get Hogues for the 642.
  • She does like that the LCR is lighter weight.
  • She and I are both concerned about the LCR in one mechanical aspect now. We spoke with a gentleman at Gander (where both guns are listed at the same price currently, although we'd never buy them there) who indicated he'd seen LCRs with considerable pitting between the barrel and the cylinder. I'd like to hear comments on this from LCR owners. He claimed to have seen them with as few as 500 rounds put through them.
So we're stuck in the middle. I think we both prefer the 642 as opposed to the LCR, but a lot of this is concern over what we were told about the pitting. So, I figured I'd ask some of my gun-buddies here what they think. Would you go LCR or 642? For those of you that own either or both, what do you think of them? Please be as specific as possible!
 
#2 ·
It's a close call, however, I'd take the 642 with a trigger job. I like the LCR but find it a tad bulkier and the LOP a tiny bit longer. Miniscule amount mind you but it affects how it feels in my hands.

Then I like the 642 asthetically better.

It's very close and it'll boil down to which feels better in her hands. Can't comment on the pitting but I do have confidence in Ruger's customer service.

As for the 642, the clear coating wears and will show wear but then again, for a concealed carry gun you're going to get wear.

It's great the two of you feel similarly on this subject.!

God Bless
Gideon
 
#3 ·
Interesting you mention the trigger. She noticed today that, although the 642 pull was heavier for her, she personally found it smoother and felt more natural.
 
#35 ·
642. Not even close in my book.



Despite the fact that the trigger is lighter than my Smith & Wesson Model 642 I developed a distinct dislike for it. The trigger was the revolver's worst feature. I didn't like the take up and release and it had way too much over-travel to suit me
There’s an important point here. A good trigger is not all about weight. It’s also about consistency and smoothness. Give me a smooth, consistent trigger pull with a little more weight over an inconsistent, choppy, lighter trigger.
 
#4 ·
Ruger LCR cuz its rated +p and more lighter then the S&W ,means quicker to draw in self defense.
 
#29 ·
Agreed...although Ihave fondled and like the LCR, my 642 with about 50 years of history behind it is my choice for now. Both are good guns though and I guess if I shot the LCR and really liked it, I would give it a try.
 
#10 ·
I went to the SW border country of Texas for a few days of shooting last week and a fellow lent us his Ruger LCR to take along just so we could "test-drive" it.

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Despite the fact that the trigger is lighter than my Smith & Wesson Model 642 I developed a distinct dislike for it. The trigger was the revolver's worst feature. I didn't like the take up and release and it had way too much over-travel to suit me.

Other than the trigger I liked the revolver ok. It was very lightweight. It gives less perceived recoil than the Model 642 with all loads. It isn't unpleasant with some of the more energetic .38 Special handloads I tried in it.

The trigger is probably only a matter of what one is used to. I've owned and shot the Model 642 for 12 years now and have also had other J-Frames for years.

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#11 ·
My opinion, for what it's worth, if the choice is between a "New" 642 with the ILS feature and a "New" or "Used" Ruger LCR, I'd take the LCR every time.

If the choice was between a non ILS 642 and the LCR it would be a tough choice.

Biker
 
#12 ·
Initially, I liked the LCR but the novelty wore off quickly. The thicker trigger guard just drives me crazy and the lack of available holsters is also annoying. I’m sure its fine for its intended purpose, but I decided to pass. Besides, I much prefer all steel guns that can be highly customized and refined.
 
#13 ·
I have the Smith 442 and the LCR. I like the LCR as does the wife. She carries the LCR with CT grips.
oldogy
 
#16 ·
I had a S&W 638 and Ruger LCR. Key word is "Had". I sold the LCR and bougt another S&W (M&P340). Go with the 642 especially considering she has already shot it and shot it well according to you.
 
#17 ·
I've fired the Smith, but I own the LCR...I will admit as a Glock owner I wanted to try out the "plastic revolver" long term. So far I've shot nothing but +P ammo through the LCR, roughly 200-250 rounds and I see no problems at all with it.
 
#18 ·
642 with ct305 laser grips.The 305 is the longer grip you can get your pinky finger on. It's cheaper to buy them on the new gun than it is to buy them seperate. Got my wifes at a local shop for 620. Gander Mtn wanted 750. Buy some snap caps to practice loading/reloading with. The trigger will get a whole lot better with lots of dryfire. The laser grips really help with learning good trigger control. You can shoot tighter groups with the laser grips because the laser is easier to see than the sights. Just remember to also shoot with the laser grips turned off to get used to using the sights. Shooting gloves help when shooting a lot.
 
#21 ·
I carry a LCR all day. It not a gun I would put 200 rounds through in a setting ( I normally only do 50), but is nice to shoot. I have not found any flame cutting or any other problems so far. The trigger pull is smooth and even. I got this gun for carry not to spend the day shooting, I've got the 9mm auto for that. I chose the LCR over the s&w because of the grip. The s&w for me was too small, it got lost in my hands.
 
#23 ·
My wife has the 642 and loves it (and shoots well with it to boot.) But I've got to admit, when we bought the 642, I actually took her to the gun store to look at the LCR. They had had one the last time I was in, but unfortunately it was stolen in a break in just after that, and all they had was the 642. Trigger is definitely stiffer on the 642 (I'm toying with the idea of changing to lighter springs, but the wife says she's fine with it as is, and since it's HER gun, she wins!) I don't think you can really make a bad decision here, but to me it boils down to this - your GF has shot the 642 and likes it. I would take that over an "unknown" with the LCR, unless you can find one for her to actually shoot.
 
#27 · (Edited)
lighter springs

...Trigger is definitely stiffer on the 642 (I'm toying with the idea of changing to lighter springs, but the wife says she's fine with it as is, and since it's HER gun, she wins!) ...
I highly recommend that you hold off on installing ‘lighter’ springs. Ensure the gun is unloaded, then dry fire the unloaded gun while watching TV for several evenings. This will soften the spring tension and smooth the action. Likewise, you can practice your trigger control (each hand) and aiming while exercising your hand/forearm muscles. After around 2500~3000 trigger actuations, you will notice a marked difference.

If you should feel any significant binding or resistance after 2-3 weeks, then consider an action/trigger job that does not include lighter springs. There are some good gunsmiths that can do this type of work.
 
#24 ·
I own both but prefer the LCR . I love the way it shoots and have had no "pitting" . I have almost 500 rounds through it. There are plenty of holster choices out there. I personally use my SP101 holster and it fits fine. i think it shoots better with the +p ammo . I've had a few of my students shoot and they've seemed to sway towards the LCR for all around carry & use. Most of them are women, hope that helps .
 
#25 ·
both are good guns,,,,but it is the s&w for me. i got several different j-frames and they are the best. i have shot the ruger and it is also a good gun. both guns got their good and bad points. when it comes down to it you can not go wrong with either. but, i am a s&w man when it comes to small wheel guns.
 
#26 ·
The Smith is just the more time proven choice...and I would get her the 442 in black, same gun as 642 just different color. Reports I get is that the finish holds up better on these.
 
#28 ·
Well, I'm not afraid to say I think the LCR looks better than the S&W.

I plan on getting an LCR myself.

And I wouldn't worry about any "pitting" issues with the LCR. Ruger is known for their great CS and willingness to spend the money to fix any problem to preserve their reputation.
 
#30 ·
I think everyone should own at least one S&W. It's an American thing. Go with what feels best to her. I'd say the heavier S&W isn't too heavy, but would likely make it more shootable for her.
 
#31 ·
642 all the way. I have a 442 with Hogue grips and have shot my moms LCR and did not like the LCR nearly as much as my 442. To me the LCR had more felt recoil and the 442 is much more ergonomic.
 
#33 ·
I've had my 442 for over a year. I chose it over the LCR when I was looking. Yesterday I went shooting with a buddy and I had my 442 with me and he had his LCR. I'm a big fan of Ruger firearms. I like the LCR but for me I prefer the S&W. I still would choose the 442 over the LCR. The weight difference is undetectible to me, but the LCR is larger in size. I shoot the 442 better, but I've been shooting it for a year. There's nothing wrong with the LCR, it really is just a personal preference thing. Hard to go wrong with either. I prefer the Ruger SP101 2" bbl in .357 mag over both of them. It shoots 38+P smooth as silk.